33773574. David de Lindsay & 33773575. Alianor de Limesi
David born in Scotland, s/o §William de Lindsay of Luffness
& Alinore de Limesi.
~1185, Alianor born in England, d/o 67547150. Gerard de Limesi
& 67547151. Amy de Bidun.
1198-99, William de Lindsay and his son David de Lindsay were
witnesses to earl David’s charter for the foundation of the Monastery of
Lindores. (S) The American Genealogist, Vs74-75, 1999, P288.
1213, Basile, wife of Hugh de Oddingseles, obtained possessions
of her inheritance with her sister Eleanor, wife of David Lindsey.
11/6/1208, David, lord of Luffness and owner of Crawford,
Justiciar of Scotland.
By 1214, David de Lindese, of Luffness and Crawford, Scotland, died.
(S) Topographical History of the County of Norfolk, 1807, P169.
(S) The Scots Peerage, Paul, 1906, P7.
Family notes:
·
Overhall manor held prior to the Conquest by
Ralph de Limesi [died 1093] who married Christina, one of the sisters of Prince
Edgar Atheling grandson of King Edmund Ironside who was brother of Edward the
Confessor. Ralph succeeded by his son and heir Ralph who married Halewise;
succeeded by his son and heir Alan; and he by his son and heir Gerard. Gerard
de Limesi married Amy d/o Trian de Hornelade of Bidun Limesi, and had issue:
o
John de Limesi [died 1198] who married Alice d/o
Robert de Harcourt [who bef. 1200 became wife of Walleran, earl of Warwick];
leaving a son Hugh who died in 1223 without issue.
o
Basilia married to Sir Hugh de Odingsells [died
in 1238], leaving 3 sons Hugh, Gerard and Sir William de Odingsells of
Warwickshire. Hugh the eldest son succeeded and died without issue. Gerard the
2nd son succeeded; and on his death was succeeded by his brother the 3rd son
Sir William de Odingsells who married Joan and had a son Sir William de
Odingsells who inherited the one moiety of the manor which came from his
grandfather Sir Hugh de Odingsells.
o
Alianore married David de Lindsay a Scot and the
Barony of Limesi of which the lordship of this parish was a part became divided
between Sir Hugh de Odyngseles and David de Lindsey. Daniel had by Alianore:
David their eldest son was lord of a moiety of the manor in the reign of Hen.
III. In 1219 the King had the lands of David de Lindsey in his custody. This
David and his brothers all dying without issue, his moiety in the lordship
passed to Sir Henry de Pinkenny Knt. in consequence of his marriage with Alice
sister and heir of David de Lindsey, and their son Sir Henry Pinkenny granted
the same by deed to Sir William de Odyngselles lord of the other moiety, the
grandson of Sir Hugh de Odyngselles who then became possessed of the entire
manor. (S) The Manors of Suffolk, 1905.
Child of David and Alianore:
i. David de Linsay, born ? in Scotland.
1223, David a minor in the custody of the king of Scotland.
1227, David at parliament at Scone.
David, justiciar of Scotland, found to be the heir of half the
Limesi fee in England.
2/5/1241, Divid de Lindes’ witnessed a confirmation of a
charter by Alexander II to the abbey of Paisley.
1241, David died, his brother Gerard his heir.
[This David is contemporary with Sir David de Lindsay, lord of
Breneville in Ayrshire, constable of Haddington, who witnessed a charter of
this David. (S) Lives of the Lindsays, Lindsay, 1849, P408.]
ii. Gerard de Linsay, born ? in Scotland.
5/14/1241, Gerard did homage for his lands.
1249, Gerard died.
iii. Alice de Lindsey (16886787), born by 1214 in Scotland.
