Thursday, May 31, 2012

G27: 67547136. Wahull

67547136. Baron Walter de Wahull & 67547137. Roesia ?

~1130, Walter born in England, eldest s/o 135094272. Simon de Wahull & 135094273. Sibyl ?.       

12/19/1154, Henry II crowned king of England.

Walter, his mother, and father presented Langford Church to the Knights Templars.

Walter described by Theobald Archbishop of Canterbury [1139–61] as an ‘invader’ of Ramsey Abbey, who was commanded to desist from his depredations.

Walter married Rohaise, acquiring in frank marriage land in Ravenstone, co. Buckingham. (S) The Genealogist, Vs7-9, 1987, P10.

1166, Walter held the Barony of Wahull; declaring himself to hold 27 knight’s fees of ancient feoffment, and 3 of his own demesne, on the assessment of the aid for marrying the king’s daughter.

1166, Turgis the clerk of Patshull held 1/5th of a fee of Walter de Wahull. Robert Butevileyn held 2 fees of Walter. Hugh son of Reginald held 1 fee of Walter. Stephen de Welton held 3 fees of Walter.

1173, Walter de Walhull and Hugh le Lege in a full court of “six old men” allocated the 8 hides in Segheho.

10/17/1173, Walter, an adherent of Robert, earl of Leicester, taken prisoner at a battle between Framlingham and Bury St. Edmunds. [Walter’s brother Simon also participated in the battle.]

Walter died.

11/3/1189, Richard I crowned king of England.

(S) A Hist. of the Co. of Bedford, V3, 1912. (S) Woodhull Genealogy, 1904, P13. (S) Honors and Knights Fees, Vs1-3, Farrer, 1923, P64. (S) Journal of the House of Lords, V124, 1892, P194.

Family notes:

·         In the later reign of King Henry II Walter, son of Simon de Wahull, and Simon his son confirmed grants in Grimscote.

·         The Woodhill family was descended from the great Domesday baron, Walter Falndrensis, Lord of Patteshall, created 1st Baron Wahull by William the Conqueror. The s/o the 1st Baron was Simon de Wahull. (S) NY Gen. and Bio. Record, 1880, P190.

·         [This is a plausible biography of this family based on the nuances of the various records – why Hugh in 1197 would purchase the wardship of Simon’s son John if John’s grandfather Walter were still living. It does not match any published genealogies. More research is needed; e.g. “1201, Simon de Wahull, the younger, owed 73 marks to the 1st scutage of King John.”]

Children of Walter and Roesia:

i. Simon de Wahull, born ~1165 in England.

1190-92, Simon a crusader with King Richard in the Holy Land. [Simon likely died in the Holy Land, supposedly by drowning.]

By 1193, Simon died. [Geoffrey fitz Piers accounted for 35£ sterling for 140£ of Anjou, late of Simon de Wahull, which were found at Woburn and received by the hands of Simon’s seneschal, Robert de Paretin.]

1197, Hubert Archbishop of Canterbury paid £333 6s. 8d. for the wardship and marriage of Simon’s son and heir John de Wahull.

(S) A Hist. of the Co. of Bedford, V3, 1912.


Rohaise de Wahull, born ~? in England.

1221, Rose, wife of Robert de Lisle [Insula], died without issue.

Agnes de Wahull, born ~? in England.

Agnes, wife of Robert de Basingham.

1218, Agnes married 2nd William fitz Warin.

1222, Agnes sole heir to Wahull estates.

1238, Agnes died, her son John heir.

Children: John de Basingham – died 1239, with his granduncle Saher becoming heir.

 John de Wahull, born ~1192 in England. [Heir]

1206, Archbishop Hubert died; John was still a minor; the wardship was transferred on a further payment of 300 marks to Isabel, widow of Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex and wife of Hubert de Burgh, Justiciar of England.

1213, John furnished 3 well-equipped knights for one year’s service beyond the sea, receiving for himself at the same time permission to delay his own departure on account of ill-health.

1215, John supported the Baron’s Revolt leading to the Magna Carta.

1216, John died, leaving his sisters as coheirs.

ii. Walter de Wahull, born ~1170 in England.

1194, Walter de Wahull accounted for 27£ for his scutage of Wales for 27 fees of the old feoffment. [Walter administering the estates of his older brother.]

5/27/1199, John crowned king of England.

1199, Walter de Wahull, knight, witnessed a charter of King John to St. Frideswide.

1204, Walter married Albreda, widow of Guy de St. Valery.

1205-6, Walter received the manor of Pateshull at Northamptonshire.

1207, Walter and his wife Albreda in a dispute with Radulfus de Stanbrig.

By 1208, Walter died. (S) The Genealogist, 1914, P15.             

iii. Saher de Wahull (33773568), born ~1185 in England.