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Monday, February 18, 2013

G28: 243382304 Say


243382304. Sir Geoffrey de Say

~1180, Geoffrey born in England, eldest surviving s/o §Geoffrey de Say.
9/3/1189, Richard I succeeded King Henry II of England.
1197-1198, Geoffrey confirmed his father's grant of the manor of Rickling, Essex, to his younger half-brother, also named Geoffrey de Say.
1198, Geoffrey and his father, Geoffrey de Say the elder – son of William de Say, made a grant to the hospital of Drincourt, providing for prayers for the soul of Alice de Cheyne, mother of the younger Geoffrey.
5/27/1199, John succeeded King Richard I of England.
Aft. 7/1214, Geoffrey’s father died.
1214, Geoffrey made a fine of 400 marks to have his father’s lands.
1215, Geoffrey joined the confederacy of barons against King John.
6/15/1215 at Runnymead, King John forced to sign the Magna Carta.
10/17/1215, Geoffrey’s lands were granted to Peter de Craon.
11/20/1215 at Bury St. Edmunds, Geoffrey elected as one of the 25 to guarantee observance of the Magna Carta. (S) History, Gazeteer and Dir. of Suffolk, 1874, P565.
10/28/1216, Henry III, age 9, crowned king of England.
9/14/1217, Geoffrey’s lands restored.
5/15/1218, Pledges for Robert Marmion taken in court: … Geoffrey de Say for 20 m. (S) FRsHIII.
1219, Geoffrey went on a pilgrimage to the holy lands.
1221, Geoffrey at the siege of Bytham castle.
10/20/1222, Geoffrey granted a market at Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire. (S) Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs.
1223, Geoffrey went on a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostella, Spain.
1224, Geoffrey held 42 knight’s fees in the scutage of Montgomery.
3/1/1228, The king has committed the manor of Lesnes with appurtenances to Rose, wife of Richard of Chilham , which they recovered by a duel against Robert fitz Walter, … she has found the king Geoffrey de Say, John of Shillingham and William de Lisle as her pledges, namely 20 m. from each pledge. (S) FRsHIII.
4/3/1228, To the sheriff of Kent, concerning taking a moiety of Patrixbourne, which is an escheat of the king and which Geoffrey de Say holds etc., into the king’s hand. (S) FRsHIII.
4/30/1230, From Portsmouth, Geoffrey in the army of King Henry, invading Brittany in hopes of recovering Normandy. They established their camp at Nantes, and captured a small castle.
8/19/1230, Geoffrey of Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, West Greenwich, Kent and Sussex died while on service in Poitou, France; buried at the Hospital of St. Mary, Dover. [King Henry returned his army to England the following October.]
(S) Magna Carta Ancestry, P727.

Family notes:

·         Geoffrey de Say [the father] of Edmonton, Middlesex; and Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire.
·         1180, Geoffrey de Say and his wife Adeliza made an agreement with the priory of Wenlock. (S) Court, Household, and Itinerary of King Henry II, Eyton, 1878, P238.
·         11/14/1189, Beatrice de Say’s cousin William de Mandeville, earl of Essex, died without heirs.
·         By 12/5/1189, Beatrice and her uncle Geoffrey de Say were the heirs [‘both of the same stock’], for a fine of 7000 marks. [Beatrice d/o William de Say of Kimbolton, Huntingdonshire; and Saham, Norfolk.]
·         11/23/1191, By writ of King Richard, Geoffrey [who could not pay] turned the barony over to William Longchamp.
·         1212, Geoffry de Say again brought suit for the barony of Mandeville.
·         7/1214, Geoffrey de Say [the father] seeks a writ against Geoffrey de Mandeville, claiming the loss of the barony on a technicality, offered 15,000 marks for the recognition that he had been disseized ‘voluntarie.’
·         (S) Judges & Common Law, Turner, 2003, P296ff. (S) HSJ, V10, 2001, P168.

Children of Geoffrey and ?:
i. William de Say (121691152), born ~1205 in England.

9/20/1230, Upon the death of Geoffrey de Say, the king took the homage of William de Say, his son and heir, for all that Geoffrey held of the king in chief. (S) FRsHIII. [Writs to the sheriffs of Bedfordshire, Kent, Middlesex and Herefordshire.]

ii. Geoffrey de Say, born ? in England.

3/20/1235, Inspeximus … Maud de Mandeville, countess of Hereford and Essex, … Witnesses, William de Say, Geoffrey de Say, … (S) CChRs.
10/14/1246, Geoffrey de Say, brother of William de Say, gave a bond to Aaron son of Abraham the Jew for £30.

Wednesday, February 6, 2013

G28: 189127106 Birkin


189127106. John de Birkin & 189127107. Johanna ?

~1180, John born in England, s/o 378254212. Adam fitz Peter & 378254213. Maud de Caux.
1186, John’s maternal grandfather died.
5/27/1199, John succeeded King Richard I of England.
1207, John’s father died; John inheriting Falthwait through his mother. (S) Chartulary of St. John of Pontefract, 1902, P603.
1207, John de Birkin confirmed the gifts of his father to the monks of Pontefract. (S) Miscellanea – Thoresby Society, V41, 1954, P49. [At this time his wife is Johanna.]
1208, Maurice, grandson of Robert de Gant, sued John de Birkin for the vills of Cottingley, Cullingworth, Halton and Harden. (S) West Yorkshire, Moorhouse, 1981, P324.
1208-09, John de Birkin a witness to the Langbaurgh charter of Peter de Brus; an agreement with his Cleveland tenants. (S) The Brus Family, Blakely, 2005, P56.
1209, Maurice de Gant, the chief lord of Bingley, recognised the right of Thomas de Mohaut to hold 6 bovates in Marley from John de Birkin. (S) West Yorkshire, Moorhouse, 1981, P327.
1212, John de Birkin held inquests of the forests in the north of England. (S) Taxation in Medieval England, Mitchell, 1971, P73.
1213, William de Stapleton, a knight of John, constable of Chester, Jordan Foliot, John de Birkin, and 17 other knights are bound to King John for John’s payment of 7,000 marks dur from Robert his father. (S) Thoresby Society, Vs1-2, 1891, P514.
10/28/1216, Henry III, age 9, crowned king of England.
8/1218, ‘Rex Willelmo de Tametun, Johanni de Birkin, … constituimus vos justiciarios nostros ad assisam nove dissaisine capiendam, …’ (S) CPRs.
1218-19, Walter de Percy claims from the prioress of Sinningthwaite two  bovates of arable with the appurtenances in Marton-le-Moor as his right etc., and those [bovates] in which the same prioress has no entry except through John de Birkin and his wife Agnes the mother of this Walter whose inheritance the land was, who made that gift to the prioress while the same Anges lay on her death-bed in the illness of which she died. (S) Baker and Milson Sources of English Legal History, Baker, 2010, P20.
1220, John de Birkin witnessed a charter of Amabilia, sister and heir of Jordan de Insula; a confirmation to the church of Selby. (S) Yorkshire Arch. Journal, V11, 1891, P461.
6/1221, ‘Johannes de Birkin, Marmaducus de Tueng, Willelmus de Tametun, Jordanus Heirun, constituti sunt justiciarii ad assisam nove dissaisine capiendam …’ (S) CPRs.
9/30/1221, Order to take into the king’s hand without delay all of the king’s demesne lands, namely those demesnes of which King John, the king’s father, was seised at the beginning of the war between him and his barons. John de Birkin, Robert de Percy, Marmaduke of Thwing and Nicholas Basset to support the sheriff of Yorkshire. (S) FRsHIII.
3/28/1223, Yorkshire. The prior and monks of Selby give the king 20 m. for having custody of their abbey for as long as it pleases the king with the lands, rents and other possessions of the same abbey, by the view of John of Birkin. … Order to John of Birkin to see that the prior and cellarer are to keep it, as aforesaid, and that the monks and servants of the house are to have their reasonable maintenance, as they are accustomed and ought to have it, without excess or waste. (S) FRsHIII.
1223, John de Birkin, sheriff of Yorkshire. (S) History and Antiquities of Selby, Morrell, 1867, P70.
7/1223, ‘Johannes de Birkin, Adam de Novo Mercato, … assignati sunt justiciarii ad assisam nove dissaisine capiendam …’ (S) CPRs.
1224, John’s mother died.
5/25/1224, To Robert of Lexington. John of Birkin, heir of Matilda de Caux, has made fine with the king by 300 m. for his relief of the lands formerly of Matilda that fall to John by inheritance, and, similarly, for having custody of the forest of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire, which falls to him by inheritance, and the king has taken his homage. (S) FRsHIII.
1225, Eboracum. {Robertus de Ros, J. constabularius Cestrie, tamquan superiores, Adam de Novo Mercato, Johannes de Birkin, … } in crastina medie quadragesime … (S) CPRs.
1225, John de Birkin witnessed a grant from William de Nevill to Richard de Mirfield of a bovate of land in Lepton. (S) Yorkshire Arch. Journal, 1882, P410.
1227, Idem … assisam nove dissaisine capiendam … Galfridus Pincerna aramiavit versus Johannem de Birkin … (S) CPRs.
Bef. 10/22/1227, John died. (S) Coucher Book of the Cistercian Abbey of Kerkstall, 1904, P1.

Family notes:

·         John appeared in numerous charters by his father, giving consent to the alienation of family property. (S) Rievaulx Abbey, Jamroziak, 2005, P97.
·         Agnes de Flamvile is sometimes given as wife of John. Agnes was the wife of John de Birkin, uncle of this John. (S) Thoresby Society, V9, 1899, P49. [The records earlier than 1207 of ‘John de Birkin’ are assumed to be that of this John.]

Children of John and Johanna:
i. Thomas de Birkin, born ? in England.

Thomas married Joan ?.
Bef. 10/22/1227, Nottinghamshire. Thomas of Birkin, son and heir of John of Birkin, has made fine with the king by 200 m. for having seisin of the lands formerly of John that fall to him by hereditary right, with the bailiwick of the forest of Sherwood. (S) FRsHIII.
By 9/1230, Thomas died; his sister Isabel his heir. [The following December, Henry de Lonchamps gave 50 marks the marriage of Thomas’ wife Joan.] (S) FRsHIII.

ii. Isabel de Birkin (94563553), born ~1210 in England.

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