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Tuesday, May 3, 2011

Lord Robert de Thorpe & Beatrice de Hengrave

 5910224. Lord Robert de Thorpe & 5910225. Beatrice de Hengrave

1294, Robert de Thorp born in England, heir & s/o 11820448. Baron John de Thorpe & 11820449. Agnes ?.

~1295, Beatrice born in England, d/o 5908642. Edmund de Hengrave.

2/25/1308, Edward II crowned king of England.

By 1315, Robert married Beatrice.

1321-3, Robert an itenerant justice.

4/1324, Robert de Thorp sent with Edmund, earl of kent, the king’s brother, on embassy to King Charles IV of France at Paris. (S) CPRs., 3/26/1323.

5/26/1324, Robert age 30 at his father’s death: “John de Thorp held half the manor of Combs in Suffolk of the king in chief in free socage; and that his heir is his eldest son, Robert de Thorp, who is over 30 years of age.”

2/16/1325, To James, king of Aragon, Valencia, Sardinia, and Corsica, etc. The king's envoys …  treaty concerning a marriage between Edward, the king's eldest son, and the Infanta Jolant, James's daughter, … he is sending to him Edmund Bacoun and Robert de Thorp, knights, and Master John de Hildesle, canon of Chichester, who are fully informed of the king's wishes in this behalf … (S) CCRs.

5/20/1325, Writ of diem clausit extremum … finds that John de Thorp held half the manor of Combs in Suffolk of the king in chief in free socage; and that his heir is his eldest son, Robert de Thorp, who is over 30 years of age. (S) UKNA.

1325, Robert, son and heir of John de Thorpe states that the manor of Combs in Suffolk is held of the king in chief for an annual fee farm, …, of whom Bartholomew de Crek, Robert's ancestor, held the manor for the aforesaid farm. After the death of John de Thorpe, the escheator, by a writ of diem clausit extremum, at the suit of Alice, John’s widow, seized and held the manor until Robert, through ignorance, did homage to the king - and he then had his seisin. (S) UKNA.

1326, Queen Isabella and Roger de Mortimer landed in Suffolk for their invasion and overthrow of King Edward II.

2/1/1327 at Westminster, Edward III, age 14, crowned king of England.

1327, John Fish of Therston presented by Sir Robert de Thorp, Knt., to the  free-chapel of St. Mary the Virgin at Ashweli. (S) Ess. Tow’s Topo. Hist. Norfolk, V5, 1806, Ashwell-Thorp.

1330, Robert, son and heir of John de Thorpe … Thorp requests remedy and that the law of the land and the great charter be kept as he has requested livery of his estates in the manor of Combs … (S) UKNA.

1330, Robert died, leaving sons John, age 15, Edmund, and Robert.

4/16/1330, Writ for IPM for Robert son of John de Thorp. Suffolk: Combes. A moiety of the manor … £11 3s. 4d. of fee farm, and 15s. of the said yearly rent … John his son, aged 14 years and more, is his next heir. Horram. A messuage and 32a. land, … Fresingfeld. 1a. 1r. land and the advowson of a moiety of the church, … Helmyngham manor. £7 15s. yearly farm … Norfolk: Little Massingham. The manor … Congham. A capital messuage … North Creek. A moiety of the manor … (S) CIsPM.

5/2/1330, Writ of certiorari for Robert (5910224) son of John de Thorp (11820448) … Suffolk: … Cambas, held by … from 2 to 14 Edward II [1308-1320], one moiety of the said sums is required from John de Thorpe (11820448), kinsman and heir of Margaret (94563585), one of the paternal aunts and heirs of the said Sarra, …; from 15 Edward II, to the present time, one moiety of the said sums is exacted from the said John de Thorpe (s/o Robert (5910224)], kinsman and heir of the said Margaret, … (S) CIsPM. [For complete record see 39979090. Sir Robert de Creke.]

 [––Beatrice––]

7/15/1330, Order to cause the following of the lands of Robert son of John de Thorp, tenant in chief, to be delivered to Beatrice, late the wife of the said Robert, to whom the king has assigned them in dower. (S) CCRs.

10/23/1330, Commitment to John de Claveryng of the keeping of the manor of Aysshewdlthorp, co. Norfolk, late of Robert son of John de Thorp … saving to Beatrice late the wife of Robert her dower. (S) CFRs.

2/8/1331, Pursuant to an inquisition … Robert de Thorp held in chief a moiety of the manor of Combes … John de Thorp, his son is his next heir and of the age of 14 years, … (S) CFRs.

1331-35, Beatrice, with the approval of Sir John de Clavering, who had wardship of the heir, son John, retired to Massingham Parva where the sons were educated.

2/1/1344, Order to cause Beatrice late the wife of Robert de Thorp, knight, to have seisin of a messuage … (S) CCRs.

1334, Beatrix, relict of Sir Robert de Thorp, Knt. and John his son and heir presented Alexander atte Mere of Little-Massingham chaplain of Wreningham Parva. (S) Ess. Tow’s Topo. Hist. Norfolk, V5, 1806, Wreningham.

1336, Beatrix patroness of Massingham-Parva and Thorp; holding NorthCreke manor in jointure. (S) Topo. Hist. of the Co. of Norfolk, V5, 1806.

10/20/1359, “…  manors of Horham and Wutton [Wotton in Horham] late of Sir Esmond de Thorp', kt and Dame Beatrice his mother, …” (S) UKNA.

7/4/1361, Beatrice died. (S) The Hist. & Antiq’s of Suffolk, 1838, Rokewode, P170.

(S) DNB, 1909, P789.

Children of Robert and Beatrice:

i. Sir John Thorpe, born 1316 in England.

9/15/1330, Commitment to Oliver de Ingham of the wardship of the lands late of Robert de Thorp, tenant in chief, in the king's hand by reason of the minority of John, son and heir of the said Robert. (S) CFRs.

1336, John married Joan, heiress and d/o Roger atte Ashe.

1339, John going to France.

1340, John died without male heir.

ii. Edmund de Thorpe (2955112), born 8/29/1319 in England. [2nd son]

iii. Robert de Thorpe, born aft. 1320 in England.

4/27/1353, An inquisition taken by Robert de Thorp .. (S) CFRs.

Robert became Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, and Chief Justice of the Court of the King’s Bench.

1372, Robert made lord Chancellor of England.


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