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Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Baron John de Clinton & Lady Ida de Oddingseles & Sir Roger de Herdeburgh

7606148. Baron John de Clinton & 7606149. Lady Ida de Oddingseles & 11820110. Sir Roger de Herdeburgh

~1255, Roger born in England, s/o 23640220. Hugh de Herdeburgh & 23640221. Isabel de Turville.

1258, John born in England, heir & 2nd s/o 15212296. Thomas de Clinton & 15212297. Mazera de Bisege.

1265, Ida born in England, eldest d/o 15212298. William de Oddingseles & 15212299. Ela Fitz Walter.

11/16/1272, Edward I ascended to the throne while on crusade.

[––Roger & Ida––]

Ida 1st married Roger de Herdeburgh, knt. of Prilleston, Norfolk.

6/1270, I, Roger de Reymes, knight, have granted … to William my son, …  in the town of Ipswich, in Caldwelland in Westerfield … [Suffolk] … These being witnesses: Sir Roger de herdeberghe … (S) Suffolk Inst. of A&NH, V23, Pt2, Family of Reymes, P110.

1273-74, Ida the wife of Roger son of Hugh de Herdebergh v. Hugh de Herdebergh with respect to Prilleston manor. (S) Short Cal. of Feet of Fines, Norfolk, 1885, P126. [Part of marriage agreement.]

1278, John’s father died.

1/12/1278, Writ for IPM of Thomas de Clinton alias de Clynton. Leciester: Olesthorp. A messuage, and 8 virgates … all which he held by the courtesy of England through the death of Mazera his wife of whom he begat sons and daughters. John, son of Thomas de Clynton the younger, aged 20, is his next heir. (S) CIsPM.

2/10/1278, Complaint of John de Clinton, nephew (nepotis) of John de Clynton, which [the latter John de Clynton] had demised to Thomas de Clynton his father, deceased, for life, to revert after Thomas's death to the said John de Clynton [the elder] … (S) CCRs.

11/13/1278, To Richard de Holebrok, the king’s steward, to deliver to John de Clinton, £18 a year of land in Ovestorp, … Thomas de Clinton, and Mazera, his wife enfeoffed the said John, their son, thereof, … that John, after his mother’s death demised the same to Thomas for life. (S) The Ancestor, V8, 1904, P196.

Bef. 2/9/1284, Roger died.


3/20/1284, Order to cause John de Clynton to be acquitted of 100s. in which he was amerced for a trespass in Roger de Somery's park of Seggleseye. (S) CCRs.

4/25/1285, Commission to William de Hopton, Robert de Verdun, John de Diggeby and John de Clinton, to deliver the gaol of Warwick of William Murdak, … for the death of Ralph le Bedel, … (S) CPRs.

[––John & Ida––]

Aft. 9/29/1286, Ida married 2nd John.                                              

2/6/1289, John, 1st Lord Clinton, Baron Clinton of Maxstoke, summoned to parliament by writ.

6/13/1291, Protection … John de Clinton, the younger, going on the king’s service with Ralph Basset of Drayton to Scotland. (S) CPRs.

1295, Ida coheir to her brother Edmund, inheriting Maxstoke and Budbrooke in Warwickshire.

9/16/1297, Appointment … to select and retain in the king’s service … knights and yeomen of his county … to be at London with their horses and arms … Andrew de Esteleye and John de Clynton } Warwick. (S) CPRs.

1299, John de Clinton, knight, summoned to parliament.

5/15/1299, Protection … John de Clinton, going beyond seas with Guy de Bello Campo, earl of Warwick, on the king’s service. (S) CPRs.

1300, Ela formerly wife of William de Oddingeseles sued Ralph de Whyteleye of Solihul for a third of a messuage and 25 acres of landin Solyhull as her dower; and Ralph called to warranty John de Clynton and Ida his wife, Peter de Bermyngham and Alice his wife, Morice de Kaunton and Ela his wife, and John de Gray and Margaret his wife, because the said women were the daughters and heirs of William de Oddingseles; and John de Clynton and Ida appeared and stated that the said Peter had no wife named Alice, nor had Morice a wife named Ela, but that Peter had Ela to wife and Morice had Alice. Ralph denied this, and appealed to a jury, which is to be summoned for the Quindene of Hillary. (S) Plea Rolls for Staffordshire, V7, 1886.

3/4/1300, Restitution to Ralph son of Ralph Basset of Drayton, tenant in chief, notwithstanding his minority, of all his lands … in consideration of 1,000 marks which Guy, earl of Warwick, Hugh le Despenser, Hugh de Curtenay, Thomas de Furnivall, Andrew de Esteleye, John de Insula Vecta, John de Grey of Retherfeld, Hugh Poyntx, Bernard de Brus and John de Clinton, the younger, have acknowldeged themselves … (S) CPRs.

3/14/1300, Restitution to Ralph son of Ralph Basset of Drayton, … in consideration of 1,000 marks, which Guy, earl of Warwick, Hugh le Despenser, Andrew de Estleye, … John de Clinton, the younger, … have acknowledged themselves in the Chancery to owe to Edmund, earl of Cornwall … (S) CPRs.

4/11/1300, The sheriff of Worcester to work with John de Clinton the younger to array against the Scots all persons holding property of £40, even if it is not held of the king to be at Carlisle by Midsummer. (S) CCRs.

4/1/1301, John received orders to attend King Edward I at Berwick-upon-Tweed to march against the Scots, gathering the men of Worcester. While the King was leading his army into the north, he first bestowed upon Clinton the name of “my beloved esquire,”. (S) CPRs.

9/8/1301, Scots using Comyn of Badenoch’s estate as a base, attacked Lochmaben, and then menaced the main English force at Bothwell [commanded by Lord Edward]. The Scots had 240 men-at-arms and 7000 foot soldiers. (S) A History of Dumfries and Galloway, Maxwell, 2009, P82.

6/6/1306,Protection … John de Clinton of Maxstoke, going to Ponthieu [France] on the service of Edward, Prince of Wales, earl of Chester, Ponthieu and Mustroil. (S) CPRs.

By 1306, John, previously steward of Walyngford, appointed seneschal of Ponthieu [France.] (S) CPRs, 1/7/1311.

1306, Nuncii: Expenses of John de Clinton in France. (S) UKNA.

7/5/1307, Order to deliver to Alice, late the wife of Roger le Bygod, late earl of Norfolk and Marshal of England, tenant in chief, the following of the knights' fees … a fee in Preleston, in co. Norfolk, which John de Clynton holds, and which is extended at £10 yearly; … (S) CCRs.

7/7/1307, Edward II became king on the death of his father.

6/17/1308, Commitment during pleasure to John de Clynton of Makestok, of the castle, town and honour of Walingford. (S) CFRs.

8/5/1309, Order to deliver to John de Clynton the castle and honour of Walyngford, the honour of St. Valery, and the town of Chichester. (S) CCRs.

Bef. 1/7/1310, John died; his sons minors.


1/7/1311, Remission of payment to the heirs and executors of John de Clynton of £31 10s 4.5d in which he was indebted to the king for the time in which he was seneschal of Ponthieu; also of £61 2s 2d as steward of Walyngford. (S) CPRs.

4/20/1311, Protection for Ida de Clynton traveling with Queen Isabella. (S) Cal. of Doc’s Relating to Scotland.

1311, Ida de Clinton as a lady in waiting, and her sons John and William as squires, members of the household of Queen Isabella.

9/1311, Ida, late the wife of John de Clynton bound with … for the proper debt of the said Ida, to Sir Edmund Deyncourt, in 450 marks. (S) The Ancestor, V10, 1904, P48.

1311-12, The Lady Ida de Clinton, a lady of the Queen’s chamber, given a winter robe. (S) Blackley and Hermansen, 1971.

1313, The Lady Ida de Clinton, a lady of the Queen’s chamber, given a winter robe. (S) The Household Book of Queen Isabella, Blackley, 1971, P157.

5/3/1313, Ida, late the wife of John de Clynton, received protection to accompany Queen Isabela to France. (S) CPRs.

9/9/1313, A pardon at Ida de Clynton’s request touching a disseisin at Solihull. (S) The Ancestor, V10, 1904, P48.

2/20/1314, Protection for Ida de Clynton going with the Queen beyond seas on the king’s service. (S) CPRs.

2/20/1315, Notification that Ida, late the wife of John de Clynton, widow, is the first-born daughter and one of the 4 daughter of William de Oddyngeseles, deceased. By K … (S) CPRs.

12/31/1315, For New Years, King Edward II sent Lady Ida de Clynton a gift. (S) Notes and Queries, V11, 1873, P8.

1316, Prilleston, Norfolk, held by Idonia de Clynton. (S) Feudal Aids, 1920, P478. [Of her 1st husband.]

1318, Eleanor de Clare, the Queen’s Isabella’s chief Lady-in-waiting, with others including Alice Comyn and Ida de Oddingseles.

3/1/1321, Order to permit Ida, late the wife of John de Clynton, to have the easement of houses in the manor of La Grove, as the king wishes to show her special favor. (S) The Ancestor, V10, 1904, P48.

2/22/1322, Protection for 1 year … John de Hardeshull, … Ida de Clynton, Ralph Basset of Drayton, … (S) CPRs.

8/6/1322, Ida de Clyntone states that a third of the manors of Hadham and Corringham, which belong to her in dower, have been seized into the King's hand together with the other 2/3rds of these manors, and that, although he had previous ordered them to be returned to her. (S) UKNA.

1322-25, Ida became a prioress of Wroxall, Warwickshire.

1325, Ida died.

(S) Magna Carta Ancestry, P221. (S) Hist. of Warwick, V4, 1947, Maxstoke.

Family notes:

·         John de Clinton of Coleshull, who’s wife was Alice, a relation of this John [uncle or granduncle], in records as early as 1280, was also prominent in records of 1297–1311; and is likey s/o John de Clinton who supported Simon de Montfort in the barons war in 1264. 1284-5, John “the elder” claimed free warren in within the lordship of Coleshill. He died in 1316, holding Coleshill of John, s/o this John, a minor. (S) IPM of John de Clynton, the elder, of Coleshull.

·         Sir John de Clinton of Maxstoke, head of the eldest line, bore “argent od le chef de azure a ii mollets de or”. John de Clinton, 2nd son, bore “argent od le chef de azure a ii flures de or”. James de Clinton, 4th son, bore “upon a chief two mullets pierced”. (S) Royal Historical Society Transactions, V5, Davies, 1996, P174.

Children of Roger and Ida:

i. Ela de Herdeburgh (5910055), born ~1283 in England.

(S) The History of Wem, Garbett, 1818, P37.

ii. Isabel de Herdeburgh, born ~1284 in England.

Isabel married John de Hulles.

1304, Isabel the wife of John de Hulles, who, jointly with her husband, granted the manor of Weston Turville to Ella widow of Walter de Hopton. (S) A Hist. of the Co. of Buckingham, V2, 1908.

1315, The manor of Willey, Warwick, held of William le Boteler of Wem and his wife Ela, and John de Hulles and his wife Isabel, sister of Ela, heirs of their grandfather Hugh de Herdeberewe (23640220). (S) Hist. of the Co. of Warwick, V6, 1951, Willey.

By 1322, Isabel died.

Children of John and Ida:

i. John de Clinton (1249362), born ~1300 in England.

ii. William de Clinton (3803074), born ~1302 in England.