~1260, Roger de Carmynou born in Cornwall, England, s/o 60844608. Roger Carmynow & 60844609. Sara Hornicote.
~1265, Joan born in England, d/o 30422336. Lord Oliver de Dyneham & 30422337. Isolda de Cardinham.
Joan 1st married to the father of Matthew de Penfern. (S) See 5/10/1321. [The manor of Kennal belonged, in the reign of Edward II., to Matthew Penfern, afterwards to the Carminows. (S) Magna Britannia, V3, 1814, Cornwall, St. Sampson – Stratton.]
11/16/1272, Edward I succeeded Henry III as King of England.
Aft. 1276, Roger’s father died.
[––Roger & Joan––]
~1281, Roger married Joan.
9/10/1290, Release of rent of mill-leat by Edmund, Earl of Cornwall to Roger de Carminho of his mill of Carminho. (S) UKNA.
~1293, Roger married his daughter Joan to William de Walesbraus [Whalesboro - age 5.]
3/29/1293 at Exeter., Debtor: Sir Roger de Carmynou, knight, of Cornwall [held fee in Mouthelond, Lesnewth Hundred, Cornwall]. Creditor: Sir Stephen de Accumbe (60844596), knight. Amount: 9m., for one horse, bought from him. (S) UKNA.
3/29/1296, Quitclaim. John Ingeriam de Kenel to Sir Roger de Carmynou. Consideration: 4 marks of silver. all right in his land of Kenel, in buildings, gardens, boods, meadows, pastures, ways, … (S) UKNA.
1296, Roger de Carminow sought to recover against Richard de Ditchen a messuage, 80 acres of land and 10 acres of wood. (S) The Cartulary of Launceston Priory, 1987.
1297, Dominus Rogerus de Carminow, knight, summoned to attend King Edward I.
1300, Roger knight of the shire for Cornwall.
10/5/1300 at Wyk, Cornwall, John de Reskemmer to deliver seisin to Roger, lord of Kaermenou, of all the lands and tenements of Chywarlo, Cleys, Hendre, Bronewycmur, Bronewicbyghan, and Chyenwoen, which tenements and lands he had from the said Roger in exchange for the lands of Trevagecmur Trevagecbyghan, Tregelly bighan, Brehelg, Lannerg, Chygwen, and Wyk. (S) UKNA.
1301, Roger de Carminow, called to reply to the King for his man’ of Wynyeton, said that Richard, formerly E. of Cornw., gave to a certain Gervaise de Hornyngcote, his ancestor, the manor of Wynyton, Merthyn, and Tam’ton in exchange for the manor of Bochym.
11/13/1301, IPM of Edmund, earl of Cornwall. Cornwall: … Hornicot. 5 fees held by Roger de Carbinhou. Tamerton, Wynyerton and Merthyn. 1/20 fee held by the same Roger. (S) CIsPM. [Hornicot inherited from his mother.]
1302, William Bottreux brought Writ of Wardship against Roger Carminow and demanded William, the brother and heir of John de Whalesboro. Roger replied, ‘William whilst your ward married our daughter’. [Nous vous dioms qe vivant Joh frere Willame, e en vostre garde estcant, si fut Willame marie a nostre fille.]
Aft. 1302, Roger’s mother died.
7/7/1307, Edward II became king on the death of his father.
1308, Roger died.
12/20/1308, IPM of Roger de Carminow. Cornwall: Wynyenton and Merthyn. The manors, held, together with the manor of Tamerton … Kenel. The hamlet … Carmino alias Karmino. The hamlet … Oliver his son, aged 30 and more, is his next heir. (S) CIsPM.
2/22/1309, Agreement for assignment of dower. Oliver de Carmynou and Lady Joan who was wife of Roger de Carmynou, knight, from the manors of Carmynou, Wynienton, Trezeued, Merthin, Kenel, Eglosros, Trelewith, Dysard, Resker and Hornicote, and the advowsons of the churches of Wyteston, Eglosros, Sanctus Rumon Maior and Sanctus Rumon Minor in Tyrhard. (S) UKNA. [Seal showing arms of Carminow (a bend, without the label of 3) and of Dinham (5 lozenges); 'Sig... Carminno'.]
6/9/1309, Presentation of Roger son of Roger de Carmenou, … to the church of St. Stadian, in the diocese of Exeter. (S) CPRs.
6/4/1320, Licence for Oliver de Carmynou to grant … his reversion in the manors of Merthyn, Wynyenton and kenel, held in chief as of the earldom of Cornwall … which Joan, late the wife of Roger de Carmynou holds in dower of the inheritiance of the said Oliver, … regrant the same to Oliver de Carmynou and Elizabeth his wife … John, brother of said Oliver, … Richard brother of the same John, and Mivan brother of the said Richard, … and failing issue to William Walebreus and Joan his wife and the heirs of their bodies, … (S) CPRs.
5/10/1321, Between Oliver de Carmenou & Elizabeth his wife, claimants, by John Bylyon in Elizabeth's place, Matthew de Penfern, clerk, deforciant, as to the manors of Merthyn, Wynyenton … For this Matthew granted for himself & his heirs that the said tenements & advowson which Joan (30422305) who was the wife of Roger de Carmenou held in dower of the inheritance of the said Matthew on the day this concord was made … should Oliver & Elizabeth die without heir of their bodies … [reversions to multiple persons] … to William Walebreus & Joan (60841837) his wife & the heirs of their bodies. … there being present Joan who was the wife of Roger de Carmenou, who agreed thereto & did fealty to Oliver & Elizabeth at the Court. (S) Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc., V1, Rowe, 1914, P269, no.467.
By 1329, Johanne de Kaermynaw died. (S) Parochial History of Cornwall, 1838, P231.
Children of Roger and Johanna:
i. Sir Oliver Carminowe, born ~1285 in England.
[Johanna’s father was likely the godfather of Oliver.]
2/2/1309, Order to deliver to Oliver de Kaermino, son and heir of Roger de Kaermino, tenant in chief, the lands late of his said father, he having done homage. (S) CFRs.
Oliver married Isould, d/o Reynold Ferrers [2 daughters].
Oliver, sheriff of Cornwall, keeper of Launceston castle.
Oliver married Elizabeth Pomeroy.
6/4/1320, Licence for Oliver de Carmynou to grant … his reversion in the manors of Merthyn, Wynyenton and Kenel, … which Joan (mother of Oliver), late the wife of Roger de Carmynou holds in dower of the inheritance of the said Oliver; … failing such issue to John, brother of the said Oliver, … with successive remainders to Richard brother of John (15211152), and Mivan brother of Richard, and failing issue to William Walebreus and Joan (sister of Oliver) his wife and the heirs of their bodies, with final remainder to the right heirs of the said Oliver. By fine of 40s. (S) CPRs. [See next record.]
5/10/1321, Between Oliver de Carmenou (eldest s/o Joan) & Elizabeth his wife, claimants, … the said tenements & advowson which Joan (30422305) who was the wife of Roger de Carmenou held in dower … [reversions to multiple persons] … to William Walebreus & Joan (60841837) his wife & the heirs of their bodies. … there being present Joan who was the wife of Roger de Carmenou, …. (S) Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc., V1, Rowe, 1914, P269, no.467.
Aft. 8/31/1335, Oliver died; his heir his son Roger (b.aft.1321) [by Elizabeth].
ii. Roger de Carminou, born ? in England.
Bef. 8/1320, Roger died leaving his brother Oliver as his heir.
iii. John Carminou (15211152), born ~1290 in Cornwall, England.
iv. Joan Carminou (60841837), born ~1293 in England.
v. Richard de Carminou, born ? in England.
vi. Mivan Carminou, born ? in England.