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Baron Robert de Veteri Ponte & Lady Idonea de Busli

 19989640. Baron Robert de Veteri Ponte & 19989641. Lady Idonea de Busli

~1170, Robert de Vipont born in England, s/o 39979280. William de Veteri Ponte & 39979281. Matilda de Morville.

11/3/1189, Richard I crowned king of England.

~1190, Idonea born in Yorkshire, England, heir & d/o §§John de Busli & Cecilia ?. (S) History of Co. of Buckingham, V2, 1908.

By 1195, Robert de Vieuxpont in the service of the King. Robert employed in Normandy as a paymaster of troops and director of military works, including those on Rouen Castle.

4/6/1199, John succeeded Richard I as King of England.

1199-1216, Robert de Veteri Ponte granted a market at Bawtry, West Riding, Yorkshire. (S) Gaz. of Markets and Fairs.

1201, Robert Sheriff of Notts and Derby.

1201-2, Robert had custody of the lands and heir of Richard de Scirington.

1202, Robert, Baron of Appleby and Sheriff of Westmoreland.

1202, Robert accompanied King John in a visit to the castle of Gournay in France.

7/16/1202 at Rouen, King John ordered R. de Vipont to deliver all the French prisoners taken in the war to Hugh de Gournay.

8/1/1202, Arthur of Brittany, potential heir to the throne of England, imprisoned at Rouen by King John under the care of Robert de Vieuxpont. [Where Arthur was later killed by King John.]

4/3/1203 at Rouen, King John killed Arthur of Brittany, rightful heir to the throne of England.

5/6/1203, Robert given the vill of Vieuxpont, Normandy, of his deceased uncle of the same name. (S) Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniae, V2, 1844, P-CCIXVI.

5/5/1203 at Porchester, Robert of Vieuxpont a witness of King John’s charter of Queen Isabel’s dower lands in England and Normandy. (S) Epistol√¶.

1203, Robert’s father died; his brother William succeeding to the paternal estates.

1203, Robert de Veteri Ponte granted the wardship of possessions, and the marriage of the wife and children, of Sir Hubert Fitz-Jernegan. (S) Hist. & Antiq’s of the Co. of Suffolk, V1, 1846.

By 10/28/1203, Robert and his wife granted the castles of Appleby and Brough, made baliff of the Roumois, and granted the lordship of Westmorland by King John for his prior services and the sevice of 4 knights. [Westmoreland was of his maternal inheritance.]

By 1203, Robert married to Idonea.

12/1203, Robert left Normandy with King John.

5/5/1204, Charter of the Lady the Queen I. on her Dower. John, by the grace of God, … Attesting, the Lords … G. Fitz-Peter, earl of Essex; …, Hugo de Neville, Robert de Trasgoz, Robert de Veteriponte, … (S) King John of England, Chadwick, 1865, P192.

6/16/1204, Robert named in a grant of King John to Alan Basset of the manor of Wicumbe. (S) Catalogue of Ancient Deeds, V1.

1204, Robert de Vipont created baron of Westmoreland by King John. (S) Historic Peerage of England, Nicolas, 1857, P492.

10/1204, Robert the Sheriff of Nottingham castle, a royal repository.

8/5/1205, Robert granted the custody of the lands and heir of William de London of Tinsley. (S) Miscellanea Genealogica Et Heraldica, 2001, P58.

2/7/1206, Acknowledgment that Robert de Vipont has delivered to R. de Cornhull, according to the King's command, Wido and Reginald, the sons of Wido de Vo, and his hostages. (S) Rotuli Selecti Ad Res Anglicas, 1834.

5/24/1206 at Porecestre, Charter of King John, reciting … Witnesses: … G. son of Peter earl of Essex, R. earl of Chester, W. earl de Ferrariis, R. constable of Chester, Robert Fitz Walter, Robert de Veteri Ponte, W. Bruwerr', Peter de Stoke. (S) Cal. of Manu’s of the Dean and Chapter of Wells, V1, 1907, f.456d.

11/8/1207 at Woodstock, Robert witnessed 8 grants/charters of King John relating to Ireland on that day. [Robert also witnessed 2 additional charters on the 12th.] (S) Cal. of Doc’s Relating to Ireland.

1208, The constableship of Tikehiull and the castle conferred Robert de Vetiponte.

4/9/1208, Mandate to Robert de Veerpont to put Hugh de Lascy, the hostage of Walter de Lascy, out of irons, but to detain him in safe custody. (S) Excerpta Historica, 1831, P400.

1208, Robert fined 4000 marks for delayed accounts. [3000 marks was later pardoned.]

1208, Robert de Vieuxpont asked by King John to provide hostages to guarantee his loyalty.

1209, Robert appointed High Sheriff of Devon.

1210, Robert the King’s Lieutenant in Powys, Wales.

4/24/1210 at Cliburn, Robert de Vieuxpont, lord of Westmorland, granted the vill of Renegill to the abbey of Shapp “sicut etiam carta Matildis, matris meae, et confirmation Ivonis, fratris mei.” (S) Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniae, V2, 1844, P-CCIXV.

1212, Robert granted the Priory of Heppe [Shapp], Westmorland, the ville of Renegill; “as described in the charters of Miltildis his mother and of Yvo his brother”.

8/2/1212, Robert de Vipont, besieged by the Welsh at Mathravel castle, was rescued by King John.

8/1212, King John assigned custody of the castles of Osswestry, Crogen [Chirk], Careg Hwfa, and Eggelawe to Robert. (S) The History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher, Lloyd, 1881, P161.

By 1213, Robert brought a suit of grand Assize against the Abbot of Roche.

1213, Robert succeeded to the estates of Idonea’s father; including a fair at Bawtry, West Riding, Yorkshire. (S) Gaz. of Markets and Fairs in England and Wales to 1516.

2/1214, Robert accompanied King John to France. King John landed at La Rochelle in an expedition into Poitou.

6/19/1215 at Runnymede, Robert stood with King John when he was forced to agree to the terms of the Magna Carta. (S) Monthly Magazine and British Register, V48, 1819, P4.

By 1216, Undertaking upon oath by Robert de Veteri Ponte to his lord, John, King of England, that neither he nor his heirs will use or show the charter which the said king made to him concerning Appelby and Burgh, so long as the king shall live, except with his consent. (S) Cal. of Manu’s of the Dean and Chapter of Wells, V2, 1914, no.18.

1/1216, Robert, Earl of Westmorland, given custody of the castles of Cumberland and Carlisle.

2/14/1216, Letter of monition and exhortation to Robert de Veteri Ponte, urging him to defend the king and realm and follow the counsels of the cardinal legate, to whom plenary powers have been given. (S) Cal. of Papal Reg’s, V1, 1893, Regesta 9.

10/19/1216, Henry III succeeded John as King of England. Louis of France also claimed the throne.

3/12/1217, Ivo de Vieuxpont in rebellion, his lands in Northamptonshire given to his brother Robert de Vieuxpont. (S) Magni Rotula Scaccarii, V2, 1844, P-CCIXVII.

5/20/1217, Robert fought for King Henry III at the battle of Lincoln. English forces, with the aid of previous rebel barons, defeated the French.

1217, “The King to Robert de Vipont greeting. We command you that ye deliver without delay” to Ralph, Earl of Augy, his Castle of Tichhill. Robert refused to give up the castle claiming Idonea held the right in capite, and began a lawsuit in the Court of the Exchequer.

7/1218–2/1222, Robert de Vieuxpont released from having to account for the profits and farm of the county of Carlisle. (S) Anglo-Norman Studies, Lewis, 2006, P85.

9/12/1218, Order to Robert de Vieuxpont that if Thomas of Moulton gives him surety …for the £368 he owes …, and for £164 8s. 1d. of the debt of Ada de Morville , his wife, of a fine she made … to marry, he is to cause Thomas to have full seisin without delay of his castle. (S) FRsHIII.

6/28/1219, Robert de Vieuxpont has shown the king’s council that whereas all of the king’s predecessors, kings of England, always had a mine in Tynedale pertaining to the king’s castle of Carlisle …

9/1219 at Westminister, Robert and Idonea in a suit trial with the Alice, Countess of Eu, over the castle and honor of Tickhill. [The Countess and Idonea were related, Idonea’s pedigree declared from Jordanus, nephew of Roger de Busli.]

10/18/1219, Philip son of Daniel, plaintiff, and Robert de Veteri Ponte, defendant. (S) Feet of Fines, Hampshire.

4/25/1220, Robert Mauntel has made fine with the king by 100m.  to keep the counties of Essex and Hertfordshire … by the assent of H. de Burgh, justiciar… His pledges for this fine are … Earl Robert de Vere for 5m, …, Otto son of William for 5m, … Peter of Tresgoz for 40s., …. (S) FRsHIII.

1220, The king agreed to commit to Robert the castle of Carleol in exchange for the castle of Tykehull, and for 6½  knights’ fees and £100.

1221, Robert had license to lease lands for 3 years while he went on crusade.

1222, Final concord between Idonea de Vipoint and Alice, Countess of Eu, over the Honour of Tickhill. (S) Yorkshire Arch. Journal, V9, 1886, P291.

8/29/1223, Order to the barons of the Exchequer to place in respite the account of Robert de Vieuxpont. [Multiple similar orders continue into 1227.] (S) FRsHIII.

2/29/1224, … Dorset , concerning the vill of Melborne, formerly of Guy de la Val , which Robert de Vieuxpont holds by bail of King John. (S) FRsHIII.

1224, William de Lanc’ stated that he held a Thurs. market at his manor of Barton, Westmorland, by charter of K John. He alleged that the men of the county were impeded from going to his market by Robert de Vieuxpont, baron of Westmorland. (S) Gaz. of Markets and Fairs.

1/1225, King Henry reissued the Magna Carta, which became the official text. (S) Hist. Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, Thomson, 1829, P130. [Witnesses: … Hubert de Burgh, the King’s Justiciary; Randolph Earl of Chester and Lincoln, William Earl of Salisbury, William Earl of Warren, Gilbert de Clare Earl of Gloucester and Hertford (19989528), William de Ferrers Earl of Derby, William de Mandeville Earl of Essex, Hugh le Bigod Earl of Norfolk (19909646), William Earl of Ablemarle, Humphrey de Bohun Earl of Hereford (47279584), John de Lacy Constable of Chester (19989530), Robert de Ros, Robert fitz Walter, Robert de Vipont, William de Brewer, Richard de Montifichet, Peter Fitz Herbert, Matthew Fitz Herbert, William de Albiniac, Robert Gresley, Reginald de Bruce, John de Monmouth, John Fitz Alan, Hugh de Mortimer, Walter de Beauchamp, William de Saint John, Peter de Mauley, Brian de Lisle, Thomas de Muleton, Richard de Argentine, Walter de Neville, William Mauduit, John de Baalun.]

2/11/1225, Robert, back in England, attested to the reissue of the Magna Carta. (S) English Historical Doc’s, 1189-1327, 1975.

6/1225, William of Lancaster, John de Lacy, Robert de Vieuxpont and the earl of Surrey ordered to deforest areas of their lands. (S) The Minority of Henry III, 1990, P388.

2/4/1226, The king has given respite to Robert de Vieuxpont from rendering his account at the Exchequer for the debts he owes the king. (S) FRsHIII.

1/1227 at Appleby, Westmoreland, Robert in a lawsuit with William de Lancaster. (S) Society for the Publication of Original Doc’s Relating to Lancashire and Cheshire, 1900.

1/4/1228, The king has given respite to Robert de Vieuxpont from rendering his account at the Exchequer for the debts he owes the king. (S) FRsHIII.

1/1228, Robert, Baron of Westmorland, died.


2/1/1228, The King granted the wardship and lands of John, the heir and a minor, to Hubert de Burgo, Earl of Kent.

3/2/1228, Order to the sheriff of Yorkshire to inquire what became of the chattels of Robert de Vieuxpont , which were sold, recovered and valued by trustworthy men after his death, and who has them, and to cause Idonea, who was the wife of Robert to have them.

4/20/1228, The king has granted to Hubert de Burgh etc. that, of the debts which Robert de Vieuxpont …, and John, son and heir of the same Robert, who is in his custody by the king’s order until his full age.

1228, Idonea de Vesteri pont” granted a charter to the Kingths Templar in Oistrefeld [Austrefeld]. [Idonea gave 13 bovates of her land at Ostrefeld for the support of a chaplain in the house of the Temple of London to pray for her own soul and that of her deceased husband, Robert de Veteri Ponte.] (S) The History of the Knights Templars, P304.

5/8/1230, A writ commanded the Sheriff of Roteland that Idonea and her men of Essenden were to be left in peace.

1232, Idonea granted a charter in Austrefeld or Bawtry.

10/25/1233, The bailiffs of Nottingham give the king one mark for having a writ to summon Idonea de Vieuxpont and others before the justices in Bench to show why they vex the same bailiffs against their liberties etc. (S) FRsHIII.

9/1/1241, Idonea attempted unsuccessfully to settle the lawsuit with the monks by giving them the manor of Sandbec.

Bef. 10/19/1241, Idonea, Lady Kimberworth, died. (S) FRsHIII. [Writ issued to take her lands into the king’s hands. Alice countess of Eu for 100m given custody of Idonea’s lands.]

(S) Miscellanea Genealogica Et Heraldica, Bannerman, V-III. (S) FRsHIII.

Family notes:

·         John de Busly, s/o §§Richard de Busli, cofounder of Roche Abbey, South Yorkshire.

·         Richard de Busli, s/o §§Jordan de Busli, s/o §§Ernaldus de Busli.

Children of Robert and Idonea:

i. John de Veteri Ponte (9994820), born 1211 in England.

ii. Christian de Vieuxpont, born ? in England.

Christian married Thomas Greystoke.

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