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Sunday, May 15, 2011

Sir John le Latimer & Joane de Gouis

7604448. Sir John le Latimer & 7604449. Joane de Gouis

~1276, John born in England, 2nd s/o 15208896. Lord William Latimer & 15208897. Alice Ledet.

5/1285, Joane born in Normandy, d/o 15208898. Sir William de Gouis & 15208899. Petronilla ?.

3/24/1299, Ratification of the sale by Walter de Gloucestre to John le Latimer, of the custody of the lands late of William de Gouiz, … during the minority of the hiers, Joan and Alice, with the marriage, … (S) CPRs. [This John is John’s paternal uncle, (S) CPRs, 3/24/1299.]

8/29/1300, Joan, the wife of John le Latimer, eldest daughter and an heir of William de Gouiz, deceased, who held of the king in chief: Dorset (proof of age). Ralph de Rochefort, knight, aged 50, says that the said Joan was 16 at the feast of Holy Trinity last, for she was born in Normandy, and he saw her with her father at Shireborn before the justices in eyre on the morrow of Holy Trinity, 16 Edw. I, and she was then 3 years of age and more; and on the same day he was made the king’s coroner in Dorset. (S) CIsPM.

5/1/1300, John le Latimer, who married Joan, the eldest daughter and co-heiress of William de Gouiz, … to do and receive in chancery what the king's court shall consider of this that Petronilla, late the wife of the said William, has more in dower of Joan's inheritance than pertains to her. (S) CCRs.

7/6/1305, Order to cause John le Latimer and Joan, his wife, one of the daughters and heiresses of William de Gouiz, lately one of the heirs of Alvred de Lincolnia, to be acquitted of scutage, … (S) CCRs.

2/25/1308, Edward II crowned king of England.

[––John & Joan––]

~1309, John married to Joane by which he acquired the estate of Duntish, co. Dorset. [Marriage likely in Normandy where Joane’s mother lived.]

7/28/1311, IPM of Alice de Gouuiz alias de Gouiz: Endorsed: The said Alice after the death of William de Gouiz her father in 27 Edw. I. was found to be 10 years of age, and the said king sold the wardship and marriage to Sir John le Latymer, for which cause the jury of this inquisition would not say that she was seised of any lands, &c. on the day she died. Her sister, Joan the wife of Sir John de Latymer, aged 24 and more, is her next heir. (S) CIsPM.

8/24/1311, Writ to the escheator to take the said lands, &c., into the king's hand, and warn the said John to come before the king in his Chancery, on the quinzaine of St. Michael next to do and receive what the court shall think fit ; the king having committed the wardship of the said lands, &c. to Alice de Leygrave, his nurse, until the lawful age of the heir. (S) CIsPM.

10/7/1313, William le Latymer [John’s older brother], to whom the king granted the custody of the land and heir of Hugh de Poynz and the marriage of the heir, came into chancery at Westminster, on October 8, and offered marriage to Nicholas son and heir of the said Hugh, to wit Joan daughter of John le Latymer, in the presence of Henry de Bello Monte, Nicholas de Segrave, … knights … (S) CCRs.

1318, John le Latymer v. John Horn and his wife Jeremia in Estshene Mortelake & Wymeldon. (S) Surrey Fines.

6/6/1318, Order to acquit John le Latimer of £23 14s 4d, exacted from him for the debts of William de Gouiz, deceased, father of Joan his wife, of whom she is the heiress, as the king has pardoned him this sum in consideration of his good service. (S) CCRs.

4/1320-21, At Westminster, 1 month after Easter day, between John Le Latymer and Joan his wife, querents, and Lambert de Thrikyngham, deforciant, of the manors of Divelish, Duntysh and Tylleye. Plea of covenant was summoned. John and Joan acknowledged the manors to be the right of Lambert as by their gift. For this Lambert granted them to John and Joan and rendered them at the court. (S) Feet of Fines, Dorset.

12/3/1321, John appointed keeper of the castle and chase of Corfe, Dorset. (S) UKNA.

5/16/1322, Commission … 1 footman from every town, … for arming and to conduct them to Newcastle … to serve the king for 40 days … Dorset} John le Latymer, John Peverel. (S) CPRs.

10/14/1322, King Edward at the losing Battle of Byland, 20 miles north of York, against Robert Bruce. [This defeat compelled King Edward to recognize Scottish independence.]

12/3/1322, “Robert de Haulde … Extensive list of the damages committed against the king in the warren of Purbeck and Corfe Castle by John le Latimer …” (S) UKNA.

6/14/1324, Commission to John Latymer and John Pever to select  130 foot bowmen in co. Dorset, to go to Exeter, where 70 will be selected to go to the duchy of Aquitaine. (S) CPRs.

8/1324, King Edward began the War of Saint-Sardos with his brother-in-law King Charles of France, who had invaded Aquitaine.

Bef. 11/19/1325, Joan’s mother Petronilla died. [… Petronilla, late the wife of William de Gouiz, was born and dwelt in parts beyond sea, … held not lands in chief at her death, … held [hamlet of Tyley] … in dower of the inheritiance of Joan, wife of John le Latymer, daughter and heiress of the aforesaid William … died on Monday before St. Andrew last.] (S) CCRs.

12/16/1325, John replaced as keeper of the castle and chase of Corfe. (S) UKNA.

2/1/1327 at Westminster, Edward III, age 14, crowned king of England.

3/27/1331, John Latymer son of William Latimer, knight, acknowledges that he owes to Simon de Swanlund, citizen of London, £1000; to be levied, in default of payment, of his lands and chattels in co. Dorset. (S) CCRs.

7/10/1335, Letters of general attorney for John le Latymer going to Scotland. (S) Cal. of Doc’s Relating to Scotland.

1336, John died, seised of the manors of Norbrith and Lagham, Surrey; leaving John his son and hier.


4/8/1336, IPM of John le Latymer. In Surrey he has no lanch as tenant in chief of King, but holds manor of Nobright as of the manor of Lageham from Johnde Ifeld and his wife Margaret …. John Le Latymer also held jointly with wife Johanna (still alive) and son Edmund, messuage, 40 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow, 40 acres of wood, 20s rent in Crawestoke, Surrey … as of the Honor of Gloucester, of Hugh Baudele for service of 1lb of pepper. John le Latymer also held jointly with wife Johanna messuage, 60 acres of arable, 2 acres of meadow in Shene, (Surrey) from Archbishop of Canterbury for 17s a year valued at 20s above that rent. Nearest heir is John son of John le Latymer aged over 26. (S) UKNA. [Southampton: Laskam. A messuage, … by service of a knight’s fee. He held no other lands &c. in the county. Robert le Latimer, his brother is his next heir. (S) CIsPM.]

5/1/1346, Joan died.

6/11/1346, IPM of Joan, late the wife of John Latymer. Dorset: Swanewych, Waye, Wermewelle, Tarente Antioche and Chalvedon. 4 messuages and 4 carucates of land … Duntyssh and Tyle. The manors held for her life by the grant of William Fyllol and Mary his wife by fine levied in the king’s court, with remainder to Robert son of John Latymer, knight; … Deuelyssh. The manor, …, held for her life of the grant of Hugh Fillol and Thomas de Homere by their charter, with remainder to Robert Latymer son of the said Joan … She died on 1 May last. Robert Latymer, her son, aged 30 years and more, is her next heir. (S) CIsPM.

(S) A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain, Burke, 1835, P681.

Children of John and Joane:

i. John le Latymer, born 1310 in England.

5/3/1336, Appointment of John son of John le Latymer, king’s yeoman, to arrest wherever found, … Walter Dawe of Lasham, … who are indicted of the murder of John le Latymer, knight, at Cranstok, co. Surrey …. (S) CPRs.

1337, John settled the manor of Lasham on William Fillol and Mary his wife and the heirs of Mary. (S) A Hist. of the Co. of Hampshire, V4, 1911.

1338, John died.

10/13/1338, Order to the escheator on this side Trent … John Latymer held in his demesne as of fee a messuage, 90 acres of land, 20 acres of wood and 41s. of rent in Lasham, co. Southampton, … and that Robert le Latymer, his brother, is his next heir and of full age, to deliver the premises to Robert, he having done fealty. (S) CFRs.

11/8/1352, IPM of John Latymer. Wolkenstede. He held no lands &c. of the king in chief because, 7 years before his death, he alienated all his tenements called Noubrich in the parish of Wolkenstede to William Filol and Mary his wife and their heirs. He died 8 years ago. Robert Latemer, knight, is his brother and heir.

ii. Robert Latimer (3802224), born 1316 in England.

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