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Sunday, September 4, 2011

Sir John de Fiennes & Maud de Monceaux

15211392. Sir John de Fiennes & 15211393. Maud de Monceaux

1302, John de Fyenles, born in England, s/o 30422784. John de Fiennes & 30422785. Joan le Forester.

7/7/1307, Edward II became king on the death of his father.

~1310, Maud born in England, d/o 30422786. John de Monceaux & 30422787. Olympia ?.

1316, Maud’s father died, her brother John his heir.

2/1/1327 at Westminster, Edward III, age 14, crowned king of England.

By 1327, John’s father died.

[––John & Maud––]

1327, John married Maud.

Aft. 10/29/1329, Maud heir to her brother John de Monceaux of Herstmonceux manor and castle. (S) CCRs.

1/30/1328, Order not to distrain John de Fienles for his homage for the lands that he holds of the king in England, as the king has respited his homage for a year from this day. (S) CCRs.

1331, The manor of Compton Monceux was granted by Sir John de Fiennes and Maud his wife to Maud de Ferrers for 100 marks for life. [See 7/3/1336.]

6/25/1332, John de Fienes, son of Joan de Fiennes owes to Thomas Bowet, citizen of London, 8 lbs 9s 4d. … John held the manor of Hardinton in Somerset. (S) CCRs.

1332, John de Fiennes and his wife Maud made a conveyance of Ashhall. (S) A Hist. of the Co. of Essex, V4, Ongar Hundred, 1956.

11/26/1334, Commission of oyer … on complaint by John de Fyenles that … and others broke his close at Hustmonceaux, co. Sussex, … assaulted his steward, Richard Havard, whom he had deputed to hold his court there, … imprisoned his servants. (S) CPRs.

7/3/1336, Order not to intermeddle further with the manor of Compton Mounceaux, co. Southampton … Matilda [de Ferers], late the wife of John de Insula … at her death … remainder to John de Fienles and Matilda his wife. (S) CCRs, CIsPM 6/29/1336.

1337, John de Fyenles and Maud his wife v. Thomas de Fyenles; manors of Asshehalle in Essex and Compton Mounceauxin Hants, and manor and advowson of church of Hurst Mounceauxin Sussex; to John and Maud and heirs of their bodies, contingent remainders in succession to John son of said John, William and Robert his brothers, Joan his sister, heirs of their bodies, or right heirs of [John de Fyenles]. (S) Feet of Fines for the Co. of Sussex.

1338, John’s mother died.

6/25/1341, John de Fienles, knight, acknowledges that he owes to Andrew Saddok, clerk, £100; to be levied, etc. in co. Berks. (S) CCRs. [See 1349.]

1342, John knighted. (S) An Account of the Families of Lennard and Barret, 1908, P161.

5/30/1342, Commission de walliis et fossatis to John de Fenes, knight, … counties of Kent and Sussex, … (S) CPRs.

1344, Sir John Fynes, kt., witnesses a grant by Guy de Brian and Joan his wife to Sir Alexander Sackville.

1344, Margaret la Spencere to Sir John de Fienles kt. (S) UKNA.

1/9/1345, Whereas, in view of the threatened invasion of England by the king’s enemies, French and Scots, … all men holding a lay fee shall be assessed to arms … appointed … to arrest and imprison all those whom he shall find oppose him … John de Fienles. Buckingham. (S) CPRs.

1345, Sir John de Fiennes, kt. witnesses a deed by William Jurdan of Braye.

7/12/1346, King Edward landed an invasion force of 10000 in Normandy, which marched north plundering the countryside. King Philip VI, with 8000 horsemen and 4000 Genoese crossbowmen pursued.

8/26/1346, John de Fyenles fought as a knight in the king’s division at the battle of Crecy. (S) Collections for a History of Staffordshire, V18, P39.

8/26/1346, The Battle of Crecy, north of Paris. Edward III vs. Philip VI, heralded the rise of the longbow as the dominant weapon, and also saw the use of the ribauldequin, an early cannon, by the English. The English longbowmen could fire much more quickly than the Genoese, with a killing range of 250 yards. A decisive victory, a third of the French forces lost [mainly to arrows] to less than 100 Englishmen, this started the decline in importance of the mounted knight, and the rise of England as a European power.

1348, The Black Death entered the west countryside of England [likely entering through Bristol].

9/18/1348 at London, Debtor: John de Fienles, knight, of Berks. Amount: £100. (S) UKNA.

9/13/1349 at Benetfeld, Feoffment by Andrew Saddok, clerk … la. arable in 'Bradecroft' next land of John de Fienles … Berkshire. (S) UKNA.

Maud died before John. (S) IPM of John. [Likely in the plague.]

4/5/1351, John died seized of the properties inherited from his mother; Compton Monceux going to son William.

7/14/1351, IPM of John de Fienles or Fyenles. Sussex: Hurstmonceux. The manor, with the advowson of the church, held jointly with Maud his wife, deceased … with remainders to John son of the said John and the heirs of his body, and William brother of the said John son of John, who survives, and the heirs of his body … William de Fyenles, son of John de Fyenles, brother (fratris sic) of John son of John de Fyenles, aged 21 years at the Purification last, is his heir in blood and in tail. Berks: La Twychene. The office of forester … Whytewaltham. The manor of Wolvele … Wyndesore by service of a quarter of a knight’s fee; 100a. arable … He died on 5 April last. William de Fienles, his son, aged 19 years and more, is his heir. (S) CIsPM.

(S) King’s Sombourne, A Hist. of the Co. of Hampshire, V4, 1911. (S) A Hist. of the Co. of Berkshire, V3, 1923.

Family notes:

·         The records of this John, and John de Fiennes, s/o William de Fiennes & Blanche de Brienne can be confused. The 2nd John lived in St. Omer, Picardy, France, holding English lands including Mertok, co. Somerset, and Gayton, co. Northampton, which were all forfeited in 1337 due to his adherance to France in the war. That John died in 1340.

Child of John and Maud:

i. William Fiennes (7605696), born 2/2/1331 in England.


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