15211394. Baron Geoffrey de Say &
15211395. Dame Maud de Beauchamp
4/30/1305,
Geoffrey born in England, heir & s/o 30422788.
Lord Geoffrey de Say & 30422789. Idoine de Leybourne.
2/25/1308,
Edward II crowned king of England.
1311,
Margaret born in England, d/o 1249356.
Guy de Beauchamp & 1249367. Alice de Tony.
3/31/1321,
Licence for Geoffrey de Say to enfeoff … his manor of Westgrenewich, co. Kent,
… to regrant the manor to the said Geoffrey and Idonia his wife, with remainder
to Geoffrey son of the said Geoffrey … remainders to Roger brother … and Ralph
brother … (S) CPRs.
3/3/1322, Writ
for IPM of Geoffrey de Say. Middlesex: Edelmetone. The manor, jointly acquired
by the said Geoffrey and Juliana de Leybourne (60845579, maternal grandmother)
… Geoffrey his son, aged 17 at Whitsunday next, is his next heir. … (S) CIsPM.
1/11/1323, Grant
to John de Triple, for a fine of 300 marks of the wardship of the lands late of
Geoffrey de Say, tenant in chief, in the king's hand by reason of the minority of
Geoffrey, his son and heir, to hold until the full age of the heir, with the
marriage of the same. (S) CFRs.
1326, Geoffrey
gave proof of age.
6/4/1326, To
William de Weston, escheator in cos. Kent, Surrey, Sussex, Middlesex, and in
the city of London. Order to cause Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of Geoffrey de
Say, tenant in chief, to have seisin of his father's lands, as he has proved
his age. (S) CCRs.
10/3/1326, John
atte Forde of Wrotham in a suit with Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of Geoffrey
de Say, deceased, and Idonia, late the wife of the said Geoffrey de Say. (S)
CCRs.
1/24/1327,
Edward III, age 14, succeeded Edward II as King of England. [1/20/1327, Edward
II abdicated.]
1327,
Geoffrey summoned to the 1st parliament of King Edward III.
1327,
Geoffrey summoned agains the Scots.
~1330,
Geoffrey married Mayd.
1/17/1331,
Protection for Geoffrey de Say going overseas in the King’s service. (S) CPRs.
6/15/1332,
Licence for Geoffrey de Say to grant to Idonia de Say, his mother, the manors
of Bingham, Codham, Edelmpton and Sabricheworth, said to the held in chief, to
hold for her life by rent of a rose at Midsummer. (S) CPRs.
7/16/1332,
Geoffrey de Say, going beyond seas, has letters nominating … (S) CPRs.
2/25/1333,
Geoffrey de Say, going beyond seas, has letters nominating … (S) CPRs.
1333, Geoffrey summoned to parliament.
1/1334,
Geoffrey attended the tournament at Dunstable, his coat the same as Geoffrey de
Mandeville, earl of Essex, who died in 1216.
1334, Geoffrey
de Say to have view of frankpledge, infangthef, outfangthef, and amercements of
assize of bread and ale in his manors of Grenewych [Saye's Court in Deptford]
at Burham, co. Kent. (S) UKNA.
7/1334 at
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Geoffrey witnessed a quit-claim by David de Strabolgi,
late earl of Atholl and steward of Scotland. (S) CPRs, 3/4/1339.
11/25/1334,
King Edward, from Newcastle-upon-Tyne, again invaded Scotland, advancing as far
as Roxburgh, where he repaired the castle for his use.
1335, King
Edward, headquartered at York, made excursions into Scotland.
8/15/1335,
The Scots requested a peace meeting with King Edward.
4/10/1336,
Geoffrey, a banneret with a retinue of 4 knights, 20 men at arms, and 3
archers, appointed captain and admiral of the fleet from the Thames westward.
(S) CPRs, 5/3/1336.
1336, Indenture
stating that Geoffrey de Say, Admiral of the Fleet, has taken 7 tuns and a pipe
of wine worth £11 5s. from
William Arnold Turchee, yeoman of Arnold Nicol, to Victual the King's fleet.
(S) UKNA.
9/1336,
Geoffrey assigned to protect ambassadors crossing to France.
1337, Geoffrey
de Say, chivaler, and Maud his wife (by proxy) v. … manor of Hammes; to Geoffrey and Maud and
heirs male of their bodies. (S) Feet of Fines, Sussex, V3, 1916, No.1921.
3/24/1337, Mandate
to sheriff of Hants, to give all assistance to Reginald de Cobham, Thomas de
Ponynges, Geoffrey de Say and Robert de Wateford, assembling the fleet at
Portsmouth for the crossing to Gascony. (S) UKNA.
Aft.
11/14/1337, Geoffrey’s mother died.
8/13/1339, Order
to deliver to Geoffrey de Say, who is about to go to the king beyond the sea,
by his order, to stay there, 2 ships of that fleet for his passage and that of
his household, horses and equipments, at his own expense, with all speed. (S)
CCRs.
9/20/1339,
King Edward, with a force of 12,000 attacked Cambresis, Tournai, Vermandois and
Laon [in what is now far northern France.]
5/10/1341,
Licence for Geoffrey de Say to enclose 100 acres of land and wood in Bierlyng,
co. Kent, … to impark the whold, on condition that he make on his own soil a
path … (S) CPRs.
1342,
Geoffrey, under the earl of Northampton, commanded the castle of Goy la Foret
in Brittany.
9/30/1342,
In the opening phase of the Hundred Years War, William de Bohun, Earl of
Northampton, defeated Charles of Blois at Morlaix. 50 French knights were
killed, and 150 captured. William then and took the town of Roch-Dirien by
assault.
4/15/1344,
Indult to have a portable altar to Geoffrey de Say, baron, of the diocese of
Canterbury. (S) Cal. of Papal Reg’s, V3, 1897, Regesta 162.
6/22/1344,
Geoffrey de Say bound to William de Clynton, earl of Huntingdon, for 1,000 marks.
(S) CPRs, 6/27/1344.
5/1345,
Geoffrey, ‘chivaler,’, sailing to Brittany with the earl of Northampton.
6/22/1345, …
Geoffrey de Say was held to William de Clinton, Earl of Huntingdon, for 1000
marks … (S) CPRs, 3/1/1352.
7/12/1346, King Edward landed an invasion force of
10000 in Normandy, which marched north plundering the countryside. King Philip
VI, with 8000 horsemen and 4000 Genoese crossbowmen pursued.
8/26/1346,
Geoffrey fought in the 2nd division at the battle of Crecy in the
retinue of William de Bohun, earl of Northampton.
8/26/1346, The Battle of Crecy, north of Paris.
Edward III vs. Philip VI, heralded the rise of the longbow as the dominant
weapon, and also saw the use of the ribauldequin, an early cannon, by the
English. The English longbowmen could fire much more quickly than the Genoese,
with a killing range of 250 yards. A decisive victory, a third of the French
forces lost [mainly to arrows] to less than 100 Englishmen, this started the
decline in importance of the mounted knight, and the rise of England as a
European power.
9/4/1346, The English began the year-long siege of
the port of Calais.
9/4/1346 by
Calais, Pardon to William Broker … By K. and testimony of Geoffrey de Say. (S)
CPRs.
1346,
Geoffrey was a given a ship of 60 tons of wine burthen by the King for service
in Brittany.
1/10/1347,
Grant to the king’s kinswoman, Joan de Bar, Countess of Warenne, wife of John
de Warenna, earl of Surrey … William de Clynton, earl of Huntingdon … Geoffrey
de Say … appointed before the king as her attorneys in England … (S) CPRs.
1347, Geoffrey
at the seige of Calais in the retinue of William de Clynton, earl of
Huntingdon.
6/1347,
Geoffrey returned to England. [Calais fell 8/1347.]
12/1347 at
Croydon, Geoffrey de Say visited John Stratford, archbishop of Canterbury. (S)
Archbishop John Stratford, Haines, 1986, P91.
1348, The
Black Death entered the west countryside of England [likely entering through
Bristol].
7/25/1349,
Geoffrey granted 200 marks yearly to serve the King for life with 20
men-at-arms and 20 archers. (S) CPRs.
4/7/1351,
Pardon, at the request of Richard, earl of Arundel, and Geoffrey de Say … (S)
CPRs.
3/1/1352,
Whereas the king, at the suit of William de Clinton, Earl of Huntingdon,
showing that Geoffrey de Say was held to the said William in 1000 marks, … new
agreement with Geoffrey … manor of Grenewiche, held in chief … (S) CPRs.
9/18/1353, Order
to cause Geoffrey de Say to have seisin of 3 messuages and 3 roods of land in
Sabrichesworth. (S) CCRs.
3/17/1354,
Grant to Geoffrey de Say, kt of 2 messuages, with houses built on them, near
the church of Buxted, N on a lane; S on the lands of Geoffrey de Say; another
messuage lying S and W between lands of Geoffrey de Say, N on land of Walter
atte Hoke; 2 crofts in Buxted called Mallyngestoneslond. (S) UKNA.
2/5/1354, Matilda
wife of Geoffrey de Say, knight, lord of Berlings, in the diocese of Rochester,
given an indult to choose confessors, who shall give them, being penitent,
plenary remission at the hour of death, with the usual safeguards. (S) Cal. of
Papal Reg’s, V3, 1897, Regesta 227.
9/1/1354, Commitment
to Geoffrey de Say of the keeping of the king's castle of Rochester, to hold
the same for life, rendering £38 yearly.
(S) CFRs.
1/21/1356,
Geoffrey, lord de Say, at Roxburgh.
4/17/1355, Geoffrey
de Say, keeper of the castle and city of Rochester. (S) CCRs.
6/6/1356, Geoffrey
de Say, constable of Rochester castle. (S) CCRs.
9/2/1357, John
Roce, citizen and fishmonger of London, … acknowledge that they owe to Geoffrey
de Say, knight, £100. (S)
CCRs.
6/26/1359,
Sir Geoffrey, 2nd Lord Say of West Greenwich, Kent, died.
[––Maud––]
7/12/1359,
Writ for IPM of Geoffrey de Say. Hertford: Sabrichesworth. The manor … He died
on 26 June last. William de Say his son, aged 19 years on the feast of St.
Botolph last, is his heir. Sussex: Buksted. The manor held jointly by the said
Geoffrey, Maud his wife and William their son, who survives … Hammes. The manor
held jointly by the said Geoffrey and Maud his wife, who survives … Stret. The
manor … Middlesex: Edelmeton. The manor … Kent: Birlyng. The manor, including a
park with deer … Codham. The manor … Westgrenewich. The manor … (S) CIsPM.
7/29/1361,
Licence for Thomas de Bello Campo, earl of Warwick, … remainders in tail male …
to William de Say, son of Maud de Say, the earl’s sister, … (S) CPRs.
1366, Maud
has license to an oratory in her house in St. Dunstan’s, East London.
1368, Maud
granted 100 marks annually for service to the King.
1368 at
Bermondsey, Dame Maud de Say, late the wife of Sir Geoffrey Say, wrote her
will. To be buried in the Church of the Friars Preachers in London, near Edmond
my loving husband. … I charge to my son, William de Say, … to John, my son, £40;
to John de Harleston my French and Latin books; to every esquire in my retinue
… (S) Testmaneta Vetusta, V1, P83.
7/28/1369,
Dame Maud de Say died.
8/3/1369,
Writ for IPM of Maud late the wife of Geoffrey de Say. Kent: Berlyng and
Burghham. The manors, held in dower … She died on 28 July last. William de Say,
of full age, son of Geoffrey, is the next heir of Geoffrey and Maud. Sussex: Hammes.
The manor, which she and Geoffrey held in tail male … Bocstede. The manor,
which she held jointly … (S) CIsPM.
(S) Magna
Carta Ancestry, P728. (S) The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire, Chauncy,
P342. (S) DNB, V50, 1897, P387.
Family
notes:
·
6/26/1405, Order to John Maysham, escheator in
the county of Kent to make a partition into 3 equal parts of all the lands
which Elizabeth, daughter of William de Say and late the wife of William de
Heron, knight, on the day of her death held … (1) Mary (whom Otes de
Wortlyngton has married) one of the daughters of Elizabeth Aldone, one of the
sisters of the said William de Say, (2) Maud, the second daughter of the said
Elizabeth Aldone, (3) William de Clynton, 'chivaler,' son of William the son of
Idonia de Clynton the second sister of the said William de Say, and (4) Roger
de Fienles, son of William the son of Joan Fienles, the third sister of the
said William de Say (Mary, Maud and William de Clynton being of full age and
Roger de Fienles a minor in the king's ward). (S) CFRs.
Children
of Geoffrey and Maud: [3 sons, 3 daughters]
i. Joan de Say (7605697), born ~1335 in England.
ii. Idoine de Say, born ? in England.
Iodine
married John, 3rd Lord Clinton, s/o Lord John de Clinton &
Margery Corbet.
iii. William de Say, born 1340 in England. [Heir]
1361,
William made proof of age. (S) UKNA.
1375,
William died.
iv. Elizabeth de Say, born ? in England.
Elizabeth
married Sir Thomas de Aldon.
v. John de Say, born 1347 in England.
2/7/1354, To John son of Geoffrey de Say, knight, scholar, studying in
the elementary sciences, of the diocese of Chichester. Dispensation, at the
request of king Edward, to be made a clerk and hold a benefice without cure of
souls, he being near the end of his 7th year of age. (S) Cal. of Papal Reg’s,
V3, 1897, Regesta 227.
