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Sunday, October 2, 2011

Earl Roger de Quincy & Countess Helen of Galloway

19989506. Earl Roger de Quincy & 19989507. Countess Helen of Galloway

~1185, Roger born in Buckley, Northampton, England, heir & 2nd s/o 39979012. Saire de Quincy & 39979013. Margaret de Beaumont.

5/27/1199, John crowned king of England.

~1200, Helen born in Scotland, coheir & d/o 39979014. Lord Alan Fitz Roland.

6/19/1215 at Runnymede near Windsor, King John forced to agree to the terms of the Magna Carta.

12/16/1215, Roger excommunicated with his father, a Magna Carta Surety.

5/12/1216, Prince Louis [future VIII] of France, after a successful landing, crowned King of England in London. In June, Louis captured Winchester and controlled half of England.

10/19/1216, Henry III, age 9, succeeded John as King of England. Louis of France also claimed the throne.

1217, Roger’s older brother Robert died in London, leaving Roger as the heir.

By 1217, Roger married Helen.

1217-19, Roger de Quincy, son of Saer earl of Winchester, has granted, and established by his charter, to St Andrews Priory, the donation of 3 marks that his father conferred in his presence and with his will and consent, in the mill of Leuchars. (S) POMS.

1217, Roger a leader with his father in the Baron’s Revolt against Henry III in Favor of the Dauphin of France.

9/12/1217, For 10,000 marks and land exchanges, Prince Louis forfeited his claim to the English crown by the treaty at Kingston-on-Thames. A principal provision of the treaty was amnesty for English rebels.

11/3/1219, Roger’s father Saire died on the way to Jerusalem; Roger the hier. Along with his English lands, Roger inherited Locres (Leuchars) in Fife and other Scottish estates.

1220, Hubert de Burgh effectively ended baronial opposition to King Henry with the siege and defeat of the Earl of Aumale at Bytham castle in Lincoln.

2/1221, Roger took possessions of his father’s lands.

11/13/1221, Pledges for Isabella de Bolbec, countess of Oxford: Margaret countess of Winchester of 100m., … Roger de Quincy for 100m. (S) FRsHIII.

1222, Roger served in Poitou.

2/2/1223, To the sheriff of Cumberland. The king has rendered to Roger de Quincy, by a fine of 50m. that he made with him, the custody of the land of Torpenhow, formerly of Sibyl de Valognes, which custody pertains to Roger by reason of the son and heir of Phillip de Valognes, who is the heir of Sibyl and is in Roger’s custody. (S) FRsHIII. [Eustace de Stuteville, son and heir of Sibyl, also in the custody of Roger.]

9/17/1225, Order to the sheriff of Huntingdonshire … scutage or Roger de Quincy … (S) FRsHIII.

2/12/1229, Order to the sheriffs of Oxfordshire and Cumberland…, to take into the king’s hand all the land of Roger de Quincy in his bailiwick, with all property and chattels found therein, and to keep them safely until the king orders otherwise. (S) FRsHIII.

1229-30, Roger de Quenci, complainant, and John de Lasey, constable of Chester and Margaret his wife, deforciants, of the inheritiance of Saer de Quency, at one time Earl of Winchester in Ketelestan, … of the inheritance of Margaret de Quency, countess of Winchester, namely, a moiety of the homor of Leycestr’. (S) Feet of Fines, Dorset.

7/13/1229, Margaret, countess of Winchester, … to Roger de Quincy, her son and heir, after her death. (S) FRsHIII.

9/3/1229, Order to the sheriff of Oxfordshire to place in respite, …, the demand of 130m. that he makes from Roger de Quincy … for several prests made in Ireland and Wales to Saer de Quincy, former earl of Winchester, his father, in the time of King John. (S) FRsHIII.

4/28/1230, The king has given respite to Roger de Quincy from the 10m. … for the tallage assessed in a certain land that he holds of the king in socage, for as long as he will be with the king in overseas parts. (S) FRsHIII.

1230, John de Lacy (19989530) and Margaret exchanged lands with her uncle Earl Roger de Quincy. In a final concord, John and Margaret agreed to recognize all the lands from the inheritances of both Saher de Quency and Margaret de Beaumont as Roger de Quency’s right. In return, Roger granted them the Dorset manor of Kingston Lacy, and lands and rights in Wimborne, Blandford and Wimborneholt, with 4 of Saher’s manors which Hawise de Quency held in dower, to revert to John and Margaret on her death. (S) Women in the 13th Century, Wilkinson, 2007, P34.

3/20/1231, The king has given respite to Roger de Quincy from the demand of 140m. for the prest of Ireland made to Saer de Quincy, his father, in the time of King John. (S) FRsHIII.

11/19/1233, Margaret, countess of Winchester, has made fine with the king by 40m.  for having seisin of the manor of Marden , formerly of Gilbert Basset, which is of the fee of the same countess, without prejudice to the right of each who will wish to claim right in the said manor, and she has given the king surety for the aforesaid 40m.  by Roger de Quincy, her son. (S) FRsHIII.

1/12/1234, Roger’s mother Margaret died.

1234, Roger, a Northamptonshire Baron, received a third of Galloway when Helen’s father died, becoming constable of Travernent [Scotland] in right of his wife. (S) Caledonia.: Or, a Historical and Topographical Account of North Britain, Chalmers, 1888.

2/19/1235, Roger de Quincy, son and heir of Margery de Quincy, formerly countess of Winchester, has made fine with the king by £100 for his relief for all lands formerly of the same countess which fall to him by hereditary right. (S) FRsHIII.

3/27/1235, The king has granted to Roger de Quincy that, of the fine of £100 which he made with him for his relief of the lands formerly of Margaret de Quincy, formerly countess of Winchester, his mother … Roger de Quency has letter directed to the knights and freemen, his tenants, to make him an aid to acquit his debts. (S) FRsHIII. (S) CPRs.

1235, Helen, daughter of Alan of Galloway, wife of Roger de Quincy, earl of Winchester, quitclaim of villa of Eddleston. (S) POMS.

1235, After the death of his mother, Roger became 2nd Earl of Winchester.

1237, Rogerus, earl of Winchester, with King Alexander II of Scotland at York where he witnessed a treaty with King Henry II.

1/25/1238, To R. earl of Cornwall and Poitou. The king is sending to him John son of Geoffrey, … requesting and commanding him to give them credence … The like to each of the following … R. earl of Winchester … (S) CPRs.

1239, Roger joined in on  a letter to Pope Gregory IX complaining about infringement of rights.

1240, John de Nevill (19962462) covenanted with Roger de Quincey, earl of Winchester, for the marriage of his son Hugh with Isabel daughter of Roger. (S) De Nova Villa:, Swallow, 1885, P246.

5/20/1242, King Henry III arrived at Royen, France with a small contingent; but with 30 tons of gold. They were soon joined by French nobles against the forces of the Count of Poitou and King Louis IX.

9/7/1242 at Bordeaux, France, Chater of Matthew son of Griffin … Witnesses :- H. de Bohun, earl of Hereford and Essex, R. de Quency, earl of Winchester, John son of Geoffrey, Hugh de Vivona, Richard de Burgo, Gerald son of Maurice, … (S) CPRs.

1242, Helen died, buried at Brackley, Northamptonshire.


11/25/1242, Order to the sheriff of Yorkshire to place in respite, until the king orders otherwise, the scutage which he exacts from the knights’ fees that R. de Quincy, earl of Winchester, took in free marriage with his wife. (S) FRsHIII.

1/22/1246, Agreement made at Leycester, … between Roger de Quincy, earl of Winchester, and Roger de Somery, … park of Bradgate … (S) Fragmenta Antiquitatis, Blount, 1784, P237.

1246, Roger inherited another portion of Galloway on the death of his wife’s sister, Christian.

1/22/1247, An agreement before judges including Sir John de Cobham: between Roger de Quincy, earl of Winton, and Roger de Somery … park of Bradgate, … (S) Cattle, Sheep and Deer, MacDonald, 1872, P565.

1247, The Galwegians revolted, forcing Roger to hold up in a castle. Faced with a siege and little chance of relief, Roger and a few men fought their way out and rode off to seek help from King Alexander II of Scotland, who raised forces to suppress the rebellion. (S) DNB, 1885, P263.

Bef. 6/12/1250, Roger married 2nd Maud de Bohun, d/o Humphrey, widow of Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke.

9/2/1251, Simple protection, until Easter, for Roger de Quency, earl of Winchester. (S) CPRs.

8/6/1252, Grant that Roger de Quency, earl of Winchester, 1 of the 2 heirs of Robert, sometime earl of Leicester, … (S) CPRs.

10/20/1252, Maud died at Groby, Leicestershire. [No children.]

Bef. 1253, Lord Roger de Quency, earl of Winchester, constable of Scotland, and Edmund de Lascy his kinsman: Roger grants Edmund the manor of Kippax and Scholes for a pair of gloves in grey fur at Christmas; provided the earl’s previous grants of land there to John de Lungvilers and Robert de Walecote be ratified: [Yorks]. (S) UKNA.

Bef. 1/17/1253, Roger married 3rd Eleanor de Ferrers, d/o 9994752. Earl William de Ferrers & 486752647. Sybilla Marshall.

1253, Memorandam that Roger de Quincy earl of Winchester came before the king at Windsor on Friday next after Hilary and there put himself (‘misit se’) on the king’s mercy for 300m. for a trespass that he made in taking to wife Eleanor [de Ferrers] who was the wife of William de Vallibus who was in the king’s gift without the king’s licence. (S) FRsHIII. [Roger was pardoned for a fine of 5 marks gold. (S) CPRs.]

3/30/1257, Simple protection for Roger de Quency earl of Wichester, going to Scoland for the affairs of A. king of Scotland, … (S) CPRs.

1257, Roger appointed by the king to help with disputes between the King Alexander of Scotland and his nobles.

6/1258, Roger 1 of 12 barons elected for the observance of the Provisions of Oxford. (S) Simon de Montfort, Maddicott, 1996, P180.

9/5/1259, Protection … Roger de Quency earl of Winchester, gone to Scotland. (S) CPRs.

5/14/1260, Protection … Roger de Quency, earl of Winchester, gone to Scotland. (S) CPRs.

5/9/1261, Protection … Roger de Quency, earl of Winchester, gone to Scotland. (S) CPRs.

3/1262, King Henry III repudiated the Provisions of Oxford.

1262, Roger de Quincey, earl of Winchester and constable of Scotland, made a grant to the monastery of Lundors. (S) Proceedings … Antiquities of Scotland, V20, P157.

6/29/1263, The Manor of Isleworth hosted a gathering of Earl Simon de Montfort’s rebellious noblemen who held a conference with the King that sowed the seeds for England’s first true Parliament.

10/17/1263, Summons to Roger de Quence, earl of Winchester, to come to the king at Wyndesor with horses and arms which he brought with him at London, to treat of certain matters touching the realm, … provisions lately made at Oxford which the king does not propose to infringe in any way … [many other names appended including the earl of Oxford] … (S) CPRs.

1264, King Henry III formed an army and marched north against Simon de Montfort and his followers.

4/6/1264, King Henry and Prince Edward attacked Northampton, the garrison surrendering the next day.

4/25/1264, Roger, Constable of Scotland, died; his estates divided between his 3 daughters.

5/1264, IPMs of Roger de Quency, Earl of Winchester. He died on the day of St. Mark the Evangelist. Henry de Lascy (b.1/11/1250) [s/o Edmund de Lascy (b.1230, d.6/5/1258)], aged 14 on the day of the Epiphany next, is his [male] heir. York: Elmesse manor … Bedford: Steventon manor … Joan, wife of Sir Humphrey de Boum the younger, of full age, and Hawis (4997405), within age, daughters of the late Robert de Quency, are the next heirs. … The heirs of the said Robert are his daughters, the abovesaid Joan aged 19, and Hawis aged 14. … Northampton: … Nottingham: … (S) CIsPM. [Roger’s younger brother Robert, father of Joan and Hawise, held the reversion of Stephenton manor.]

(S) Magna Carta Ancestry, P685. (S) POMS.

Family notes:

·         Roger gave his granddaughter, Joan de Ferrers, the manor of Eynesbury, Huntingdon, in fee simple before her marriage.

Children of Roger and Helen:

i. Margaret de Quincy (9994753), born 1218 England.

ii. Helen de Quincy (243376345), born ~1220 in England.

iii. Elizabeth de Quincy (23640741), born ~1230 in England.