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Monday, January 2, 2012

John de Fiennes & Joan le Forester

30422784. John de Fiennes & 30422785. Joan le Forester

~1280, John born in England, s/o 60845568. Sir Giles de Fiennes & 60845569. Sybil de Filliol.

By 1280, Joan born in England, d/o 60845570. Jordan le Forester & 60845571. Amice ?.

5/25/1280, Grant to Eleanor the king's mother, of the custody, during the minority of the heirs, of the lands and heirs [Joan] of Jordan le Forester, tenant in chief, with their marriage. (S) CPRs.

1293, John’s father died.

By 1301, John married Joan.

6/2/1294, Order to cause John de Fyenles and Joan, his wife, daughter and heiress of Jordan le Forester, to have seisin … Because Joan proved her age before the king … (S) CCRs. [Joan had to be 14 or older.]

1295, John de Fiennes owed relief for the lands of Jordan le Forester.

7/7/1307, Edward II became king on the death of his father.

2/1/1327 at Westminster, Edward III, age 14, crowned king of England.

1327, Joan de Fiennes was assessed for her property [Woolley] in Shottesbrook for subsidies.

1331, John died.


1332, Joan de Fiennes was assessed for her property in Shottesbrook [Woolley] for subsidies.

6/25/1332, John de Fienes, son of Joan de Fiennes owes to Thomas Bowet, citizen of London, 8 lbs 9s 4d. … John held the manor of Hardinton in Somerset. (S) CCRs.

Joan married 2nd Adam de Shareshulle (d.1/17/1370).

1338, Joan, late the wife of John de Fienles, died. (S) UKNA.

8/28/1338, IPM of Joan late the wife of John de Fienles. Berks:  The bailiwick of being forester of the fee of the bailwick of La Tuychene in the forest of Wyndsore, held at fee farm, rendering at the king’s castle of Wyndsore 10s yearly. … John de Fyenles, her son, aged 36 years and more, is her next heir. Oxford: Lynham and Ascote. A messuage and 2 carucates of land in Lynham, and a messuage and 2 carucates of land in Ascote, held jointly with Adam de Shareshulle, her husband, who still survives. (S) CIsPM.

(S) A Hist. of the Co. of Berkshire, V3, 1923, White Waltham.

Family notes:

·         2/16/1370, IPM of Adam de Sharshull. Oxford: … Joan de Fienlys, late the wife of John de Fienlys, held the above manors in demesne as of fee, and was married to Adam de Shareshull. … Adam survived Joan and held the manors for life, and the reversion after his death descended to William de Fienlys, son and heir of John de Fienlys son and heir of the said Joan. … (S) CIsPM.

·         The records of this John, and John de Fiennes, s/o William de Fiennes & Blanche de Brienne can be confused. The 2nd John, more prominent in the rolls, lived in St. Omer, Picardy, France, holding English lands including Mertok, co. Somerset, and Gayton, co. Northampton, which were all forfeited in 1337 because of his adherance to France in the war. That John died in 1340.

Child of John and Joan:

i. John de Fiennes (15211392), born 1302 in England.