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Tuesday, January 3, 2012

Sir John de Monceaux & Olympia de Echyngham

30422786. Sir John de Monceaux & 30422787. Olympia de Echyngham

1279, John de Mounceaux born in England, s/o 60845572. John de Monceaux & 60845573. Joan ?

~1285, Olympia born in England.

1302, John’s father died.

10/18/1302, Order pursuant to inquisition, John de Munceus held certain lands in Compton of the heir of William Walrand, an idiot in the king's ward … John his son is his nearest heir and of full age, to deliver to John the son the lands in Compton, he having done fealty. (S) CFRs.

5/10/1306, John’s mother died.

7/6/1302, IPM of John de Munceus. Southampton: Compton Monceus. 12a. meadow and a pasture, … John his son, aged 23, is his next heir. Sussex: Esthurst. The manor … by service of 2 1/2 knights’ fees. (S) CIsPM.

7/7/1307, Edward II became king on the death of his father.

By 1303, John married Olympia.

1303, Sir William de Echyngham, knight, gave to John de Monceaux and Olympia his wife the manor of Esthurst Monceaux, and the advowson of the church, for the life of the survivor of them, with remainder to Margaret, sister of John, with warranty as touching the dower of Eva, wife of the said Sir William de Echyngham. (S) Echyngham of Echyngham, Hall, 1850, P6. [William (d.1326) heir & s/o 11820992. Sir William de Echingham. By timeline, Olympia fits as a natural d/o William. ]

1304, John settled the manor of Compton Monceux in default of his own issue on his brother Waleran in fee-tail, with contingent remainder to his sister Margaret.

7/7/1305, Protection  for Roger la Warre going to the court of Rome on the king’s affairs. Letters for John son of John de Munceaus, also going with him, nominating … (S) CPRs.

7/7/1307, Edward II became king on the death of his father.

12/4/1314, The king gave the Friars Preachers of Northamton permission to acquire land from Nicholas de Segrave, Andrew de Norfolk, and John de Mounceus, all of which were adjacent. (S) CPRs.

Olympia died before John.

1316, John died.

6/22/1316, IPM for John de Mounceaux alias de Monceus, de Mounceaus. Sussex: Hurst Munceus. The manor. … Son John, aged 10 ½, his heir of Herstmonceux manor and castle by service of 2 kinghts’ fees. Southampton: Cumpton. The manor … (S) CIsPM.

(S) King’s Sombourne, A Hist. of the Co. of Hampshire, V4, 1911.

Children of John and Olympia:

i. John de Monceux, born 1305 in England.

ii. Maud de Monceaux (15211393), born ~1310 in England.