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Tuesday, January 3, 2012

Lord Geoffrey de Say & Idoine de Leybourne

30422788. Lord Geoffrey de Say & 30422789. Idoine de Leybourne

8/19/1274 at Westminster abbey, Edward I crowned king of England.

~1280, Idoine born in England, d/o 60845578. William de Leybourne & 60845579. Juliane de Sandwich.

1281, Geoffrey born in England, s/o 60845576. William de Say & 60845577. Elizabeth ?.

1295, Geoffrey age 14 at the death of his father.

12/28/1295, William de Leyburne granted “the marriage of the son and heir of William de Say, tenant in chief, to marry him to his daughter Idonia and to no one else.”

Aft. 7/7/1297, Geoffrey’s mother died.                             

1302, Geoffrey gave proof of age.

2/15/1303, Order to cause Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say, tenant in chief, to have seisin of the lands whereof his father was seised at his death in his demesne as of fee, as he has proved his age before the king. (S) CCRs.

10/28/1304, Geoffrey going beyond the seas with Edward, Prince of Wales and his father-in-law. (S) CPRs. [Edward, the king’s son going to Amiens to do homage to Philip, king of France, for the duchy of Aquitiane.]

[––Geoffrey & Iodine––]

Bef. 1305, Geoffrey married Iodine.

5/22/1306, Geoffrey, 1 of 267 knighted by King Edward I in London at Westminster abbey.

7/2/1306, Licence for Geoffrey de Say to demise, … the manor of Westgrenewich, which he holds in chief. (S) CPRs.

11/22/1306, Grant to Geoffrey de Say, … a weekly market on Friday at … Sabrighttesworth, co. Hertford, and a yearly fair … (S) CChRs.

3/22/1307, Geoffrey de Say to come to London to be prepared to set out with Edward, prince of Wales, for France. (S) CCRs.

7/7/1307, Edward II succeeded Edward I as King of England.

Aft. 1307, Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say, states that Adam de Bavent and his ancestors held 2 knights' fees of him and his ancestors … (S) UKNA. [1308-27.]

1308, Isabelle, the widow of Hugh Bardolf vs Geoffrey de Say. (S) UKNA, CP40, Roll 169.

4/1309, Geoffrey participated in the tournament at Dunstable; an assemblage of 305 knights.

5/12/1309, Licence for Geoffrey de Say to grant … to the yearly value of £10, in the manors of Sabrightesworth, co. Hertford, and Berlynge, co. Kent, held in chief. (S) CPRs.

1310, Iodine’s father died.            

8/5/1310, Protection for Geoffrey de Say, a banneret, heading a contingent of 2 knights and 3 sergeants as part of forces of the earl of Gloucester in Scotland. (S) English Aristocracy at War, Simpkin, 2008, P65. [One of the knights was John le Savage. (S) England and Scotland in the 14th Century, King, 2007, P34.]

8/1310, King Edward left for Scotland with the earls of Gloucester and Surrey. His expedition would last a year.

1310, King Edward, invading Scotland, would spend a year on the expedition with no major conflicts, using Berwick as his base of operations.

Bef. 8/27/1311 in London, Katherine [Iodine’s sister] d/o William de Leyburne, deceased, confrmed a grant in fee of lands in Gascony; witnesses Nicholas de Kiriel [s/o Nicholas de Criol], Geoffrey de Say, Thomas de Sandwyco. (S) CPRs, 8/27/1311.

1312, Fine. Geoffrey de Say and wife Idonia, plaintiffs; Philip de Povenesshe and wife Johanna, deforciants: part of meadow and mill in Ryarsh.

1312-13, Grant by Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of William de Say, to Ralph, the prior, and the convent of Holy Trinity, London, of all the lands and tenements they recovered in the King's Court for a debt of £40 … (S) UKNA.

7/26/1313, Geoffrey, 1st Lord Say, knt. of West Greewich, Kent summoned to parliament by writ. [Galfrido de Say]

1313-14, Geoffrey de Say, and Juliana, widow of William de Leyburn … The manor of Edelmeton. This agreement was made by command of the King. (S) Feet of Fines, Middlesex, V1, 1892, no.104.

1/6/1315, Geoffrey de Say acknowledges that he owes to John de la Forde of Wrotham £100. (S) CCRs.

1315, Manor of Hammes by Lewes; to Geoffrey and Idonia and heirs of Geoffrey. (S) Sussex Fines, V3, 1916, no.382.

7/10/1316, Writing of Geoffrey de Say made at Edmonton, granting William de Fourneys permission to erect a wall along the highway opposite the messuage he had acquired from Robert de Acton in Edmonton, … (S) A Cal. of the Cartularies of John Pyel and Adam Fraunceys, 1993, P387.

9/6/1317, Robert de Insula vs. Geoffrey de Say … concerning the unjust detinue of Robert’s cattle. (S) CCRs.

6/22/1318, Commission … to deliver the gaol of the castle of Canterbury of Juliana de Leyburn, Geoffrey de Say, Nicholas de Criel, … prisoners … (S) CPRs.

10/16/1319, Grant of the king’s gift to Geoffrey de Say, in consideration of expenses incurred by him in the service of the late king, of the £168 … required for the time of William de say his father for the scutages on account of the arrmies for wales in the 5th and 10th years of the reign of Edward I. (S) CPRs.

11/10/1320, Licence for John de Sancto Johanne of Lageham to grant … manor of Staunton, co. Oxford, … to John son of the John … and Katherine, daughter of Geoffrey de Say, to hold to them and the heirs of the body of the said John the son. (S) CPRs.

3/31/1321, Licence for Geoffrey de Say to enfeoff … his manor of Westgrenewich, co. Kent, … to regrant the manor to the said Geoffrey and Idonia his wife, with remainder to Geoffrey son of the said Geoffrey … remainders to Roger brother … and Ralph brother … (S) CPRs.

5/14/1321, Galfrido de Say summoned to parliament by writ.

11/6/1321, Commission of oyer and terminer to … Henry de Cobeham, Geroffrey de Say, … touching  the persons who … held the castle of Ledes against queen Isabella, and prevented her from entering it and afterwards held it against the king. (S) CPRs.

1322, Geoffrey died.


3/3/1322, Writ for IPM of Geoffrey de Say. Middlesex: Edelmetone. The manor, jointly acquired by the said Geoffrey and Juliana de Leybourne (Iodine’s mother) … Geoffrey his son, aged 17 at Whitsunday next, is his next heir. Hertford: Sabrichtesworth. The manor … Sussex: Hammes Say. The manor, held jointly by the said Geoffrey and Idonia his wife … Kent: Beirlinge. The manor … acquired by the said Geoffrey to himself, Idonea his wife, and his heirs … Codeham. The manor … Borgham. The manor … Westgrenewich. The manor held jointly for life by the said Geoffrey and Idonea his wife … with remainder to Geoffrey son of the said Geoffrey … (S) CIsPM.

4/6/1322, Order not to intermeddle further … Geoffrey and Idonia his wife were jointly enfeoffed of the manor of Westgrenewyche on the day of Geoffrey’s death … (S) CCRs.

4/15/1322, Idonea assigned her dower.

By 1323, Sir Bartholomes de Badlesmere, Knight, sold the marriage of Roger de Northwode, heir & s/o John de Northwode to Idonia [to whom she married her daughter Juliane.] (S) Archaeologia Cantiana, V2, 1859, P44.

10/3/1326, John atte Forde of Wrotham in a suit with Geoffrey de Say, son and heir of Geoffrey de Say, deceased, and Idonia, late the wife of the said Geoffrey de Say. CCRs.

6/15/1332, Licence for Geoffrey de Say to grant to Idonia de Say, his mother, the manors of Bingham, Codham, Edelmpton and Sabricheworth, said to the held in chief, to hold for her life by rent of a rose at Midsummer. (S) CPRs.

2/1/1327 at Westminster, Edward III, age 14, crowned king of England.

Bef. 1/16/1328, Iodine’s mother died.

11/14/1337, Iodine was living.

Iodine died.

(S) Magna Carta Ancestry, P728. (S) Archaeologia Cantiana, V2, 1859, PP14-15.

Children of Geoffrey and Idoine: [2 sons, 3 daughters]

i. Geoffrey de Say (15211394), born 4/30/1305 in England.

ii. Juliane de Say (2955117), born 1308 in England.

iii. Elizabeth de Say, born ? in England.

4/5/1336, Licence for John de Chaumpaign to enfeoff … to regrant these to him and Elizabeth, daughter of Geoffrey de Say … (S) CPRs.

iv. Katherine de Say, born ? in England.

Katherine married John de St. John, baron of Lageham. (S) Quarterly Journal, Berkshire, V1, 1889.

5/5/1323, IPM of John de Sancto Johanne of Lageham. Oxford: … John his son, aged 15, is his next heir. [1321] … demising the manor of Bartone St. John to the said John de Sancto Johanne for life, with reversion to John his son and Katherine daughter of Geoffrey de Say, … (S) CIsPM.

8/26/1323, Order to deliver to John son of the said John de Sancto Johanne and to Katherine, daughter of Geoffrey de Say, the manor of Great Barton, co. Oxford. (S) CCRs.