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Baron Robert Marmion & Lady Adelise ? & Baron Richard de Camville & Lady Milicent ?

159918176. Baron Robert Marmion & 159918177. Lady Adelise ? & 756540680. Baron Richard de Camville & 756540681. Lady Milicent ?

8/2/1100, Henry I crowned King of England.

~1090, Robert Marmiun born in Normandy, s/o §§Roger de Marmion. (S) Feudal England, Round, 1895, P191.

~1100, Adelise ‘Marmion’ born in Normandy.

1106, Robert’s grandfather and namesake died; his grandmother surviving.

~1120, Richard born in England, s/o §§Baron Gerard de Camville. (S) See Family notes.

1113, The manor of Paris Garden with a mill granted by Robert Marmyon to the Abbey of Bermondsey. (S) Survey of London, V22, 1950, Paris Garden Manor.

[––Robert & Adelise ‘Marmion’––]

~1118, Robert married Adelise ‘Marmion’.

~1121-44, Adelise died. [Likely in childbirth.]


~1125, Milicent born in France. [Kinswoman of Queen Adela, wife of King Henry I.]

1129, Robert Marmion, son of Sir Roger Marmion, received Henry I at the castle of Tamworth in England.

 [––Richard & Adelise ‘Camville’––]

~1140, Richard 1st married Adelise. (S) See 1170-71. [This is not Robert’s wife.]

1131, Robert’s father died; Robert, of ‘Lincoliescira’, of full age buy not yet a knight. Robert succeeded as Lord of Fonteny, Normandy. Roger paid £176 13a 4d for livery of his lands.

[Undated] Writ of King Henry I granting to Robert Marmion warren in all his land of Warwickshire in wood and plain, as his father had, including at Tamworth.

12/2/1135, King Henry I died; having had his barons pledge fealty to his daughter Empress Matilda.

12/22/1135, Stephen crowned king of England.

8/1/1137, Louis VII succeeded as king of France.

1139, Geffrey, earl of Anjou, besieged and razed Robert’s castle of Fontney, Normandy.

1139, Robert Marmiun, vassal of Waleran, comte de Meulan, held the castle and town of Falaise against Geoffrey, earl of Anjou. (S) The Church Historians of England, Pt1, 1856, P714.

1139, Empress Matilda invaded England from the west to claim the crown of England.

1/4/1140, Queen Adeliza, wife of deceased King Henry I, divided the manor of Stanton-Harcourt, giving part to her cousin Milicent, wife of Robert Marmion. (S) King Stephen, King, 2010, P124. [Adeliza d/o Godfrey, duke of Louvain.]

1140 at Stamford, Attending King Stephen’s court: Ranulf, earl of Chester; Gilbert, earl of Pembroke; Earl Simon; Roger, earl of Warwick; Earl Robert de Ferrers; … Richard de Camville; Richard Fitz Urse; Eustace fitz John; … Hugh Wake; … (S) King Stephen, King, 2011 [Note 12.]

Aft. 1140, Richard’s father died.                                                                         

Bef. 1141, Queen Adela, wife of Henry I, gave land in Stanton and South Leigh worth £40 to her kinswoman Millicent, wife of Robert Marmion.

4/7/1141 at Winchester, Empress Matilda acknowledged as “Lady of England and Normandy” by Bishop Henry.

1141, Tamworth, held of Robert, a supporter of King Stephen, was given to William de Beauchamp by Empress Matilda. (S) Historic Staffordshire, Dent, 1896, P72.

12/25/1141, Stephen again crowned King. [The civil war would continue for 12 more years.]

~1142 in Normandy, Robert Marmion, with Milisent his wife and Robert his son, made a grant to the abbey of Bardney, com. Linc.

1143, Robert’s son Robert (79959088) received Henry II and Thomas à Beckett at Tamworth castle in England.

[–––Robert & Milicent–––]

By 1144, Robert married Milicent. [No children.]

By 1144, King Stephen confirmed Robert and Milicent’s gift to the church of St. Edith of Polesworth [Warwickshire]. Witnesses: Queen Matilda [King Stephen’s wife], Eustace the king’s son, …

1144, Robert was in constant conflict with Robert, earl of Chester.

9/1144, Robert died; slain at the monastery of Coventry, Warwickshire, while excommunicated, by the forces of Robert, earl of Chester. [Robert had expelled the monks to build a castle.] (S) The Church Historians of England, Pt1, 1856, P417.

[–––Richard & Melicent–––]

1144-45, Melisende married 2nd Richard de Camville.

1147, Richard de Camville granted in pertetual alms to the church of St. Mary at Kenilworth, Warwickshire, the church of St. Peter at Cherletone.

10/25/1154, Henry II succeeded Stephen as King of England.

12/1157 at Stamford, Richard de Luci and Richard de Canvill attested a royal charter to the Lepers of St. Lazaraus of Jerusalem.

1158-59, ‘Ricardo de Campville viii m’ in Hampshire. (S) FMG.

1161-2, ‘Ricardus de Campville in perdono per breve Regis’ in Warwickshire and Leicestershire. (S) FMG.

1/1164, Constitutions of Clarendon … in the fourth year of the papacy of Alexander, in the 10th year of the most illustrious king of the English, Henry II., in the presence of that same king, … in the presence of the following: [10 counts], Richard de Luce, …, Roger Bigot, Reginald de Warren, …, William de Braiose, Richard de Camville, Nigel de Mowbray, …, William Malduit-chamberlain, … and many other chiefs and nobles … (S) Yale Law School, The Avalon Project.

By 1170, Millicent died, her lands in Stanton and South Leigh passing to her 2nd husband, Richard de Camville.


4/5/1170–3/27/1171, ‘Ricardus de Camvilla’ donated ‘terciam partem decimarum ... apud Hottoth’ to Jumièges, for the souls of ‘uxoris mee Adelicie et sequentis uxoris mee Milesente ... Rogeri fratris mei.’ (S) FMG. [This ‘Adelise’ cannot be the same person as the wife of Robert.]

1176, Richard died in Sicily. (S) FMG. [Son Gerard received the lands in France, son Richard the lands in England.]

(S) Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniae, Stapleton, 1844, P47ff.

Family notes:

1066, §§Roger de Marmion, s/o §§Robert de Marmion (d.1106) & Hawys ?, who came to England with William the Conqueror, and received Tamworth, Warwickshire and Scrivelsby, Lincolnshire. (S) Memoirs … Royal Archaeological Institute, 1848, P208.

1106, In the year when Henry king of the English subdued Normandy to himself, Hawys (Hadeguisa) wife of Robert Marmion, becoming a nun in the abbey of Holy Trinity, gave to it and the sisters certain lands [in Normandy] as Robert Marmion had held them at his death, with consent of her sons, Roger, Helto, and Manasses, who joined her in placing the gift on the altar. (S) Cal. of Doc’s Preserved in France, Pt1, 1889, MS. lat., fo.32.

6/1121, §§Baron Gerard de Camville, keeper of the royal castle at Lincoln, under siege, had swore allegiance to John.

1140, §§Baron Gerard de Camville gave 2 parts of the tithe of paris of Cherletone to the Cluniac abbey of Bermondsey, Surrey.

Child of Robert and Adelise ‘Marmion’:

i. Robert de Marmion (79959088), born ~1120 in Normandy, France.

Children of Richard and Melicent:               

i. Gerard de Camvill (378270340), born ~1146 in England.

ii. Richard de Camvill, born ? in England.

1188 at Geddington, Charter of King Henry to the church of Bungay. Witnesses … Earl William of Sussex; Earl David, brother of the King of Scots; … Richard de Camville; … (S) Hugh de Puiset – Bishop of Durham, Scammell, 2011, P284.

9/3/1189, Richard I succeeded King Henry II of England. Gerardus de Camvilla and Ricardus de Camvilla [brothers] attended the coronation. (S) Chronicle of the Reigns of Henry II and Richard I, 1867, P80.

1189, Richard de Camville attended the 3rd crusade with King Richard I.

1191, Richard died on crusade, his sister Isabel heiress to his English lands.

iii. Isabel de Camville (243393935), born ~1150 in England.

iv. Matilda de Camville, born ? in England.

Matilda married William de Ros, s/o Geoffrey de Ros & Sibyl de Arsic.

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