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Sunday, October 23, 2011

Lord Hugh de Say & Mabel de Marmion

19989856. Lord Hugh de Say & 19989857. Mabel de Marmion

~1170, Hugh born in England, s/o 39979712. Hugh de Say & 39979713. Lucy de Clifford.

~1175, Mabel born in France, d/o 39979544. Robert de Marmion & 39979545. Matilda de Beauchamp.

11/3/1189, Richard I crowned king of England.

~1190, Hugh married Mabel.

By 1191, Hugh’s father died in battle in Wales.

12/1191, Hugh the Sheriff of Shropshire paid Hugh 25 marks for ward of Norton castle, Radnorshire.

1194, Hugh served in Normandy with King Richard.

1194-95, Hugo de Say paying scutage of xxiii.l, xxiii milites in Herefordshire, and granted delay to pay in Berkshire. (S) Red Book of the Exchequer. [£23 on 23 knights’ fees.]

1195, The Sheriff of Shropshire paid Hugh 100s. to fortify the castle of Blidewach.

1196, Hugh de Say and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore fought and lost the battle of New Radnor against Rhys ap Gruffydd, losing about 40 knights and many foot soldiers. (S) Dic. of Welsh Biography. (S) Topo. Dic. of Wales, 1849, Radnor.

1197, Hugo de Say gave £40 3s 8d pro fine terre sue in Hereford. Hugo de Say gave £23 for scutage. (S) 1198 Pipe Roll.

1197, Hugh died.

1197, Hugo de Ferrers gave 300 marks to have the wife, daughter, and possessions of Hugo de Say. Pledges:- Walkelin de Ferrers and Geoffrey de Say. [Hugh, or his son of the same name, the 1st husband of daughter Margery.]


5/27/1199, John crowned king of England.

Bef. 3/1200, Mabel married Reginald ?. (S) FMG.

10/28/1216, Henry III, age 9, crowned king of England.

Bef. 5/15/1218, Mabel’s father died.

1222, 30 shillings rent from the mill of Cotheridge was granted by William de Stutevill and Margery (9994929) his wife to Mabel widow of Hugh de Say. (S) Hist. of Worcester, V4, 1924, Cotheridge.

1222, Margery and husband William conveyed a moiety of the manor of Dodderhill to her mother Mabel for her lifetime.

1222, Mabel died.

4/1/1222, Order to the sheriff of Somerset to take into the king’s hand the land that Matilda de Say held of the king in chief in Bruton and to keep it safely with all chattels found therein. (S) FRsHIII.

(S) Shropshire: Its Early Hist. & Antiq’s, Anderson, 1864, P296. (S) House of Cornewall, Reade, 1908, P144.

Child of Hugh and Mabel:

i. Margery de Say (9994929), born ~1192 in England.