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Thursday, August 13, 2020

Baron John Fitz Robert & Lady Ada de Balliol

 486765192. Baron John Fitz Robert & 486765193. Lady Ada de Balliol

~1192, John born in England, s/o 19989910. Robert Fitz Roger & 19989911. Margaret de Chesney.

5/27/1199, John succeeded King Richard I of England.

~1200, Ada born in Scotland, d/o §§Hugh de Baliol & Ceciley de Fontaine. [Ada’s brother was John de Baliol of Bernard castle; an important noble in England and Scotland.]

1204-5, John’s father Robert granted the manor of Corbridge, Northumberland. (S) Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs.

1213, John not of age at his father’s death. John’s mother Margaret paid £1000 for seisin of his property. (S) The Judges of England, Foss, 1848, P71.


John 1st married Joan ?.

1213-15, John, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk. [His father was sheriff in right of his mother.]

2/9/1214, King John and 12 of his barons [including John fitz Robert] sailed for Poitou. King John unsuccessfully invaded France trying to recover his lands. (S) The Brus Family in England and Scotland, Blakely, 2005, P54.

10/1214, King John returned to England.

1215, John joined the confederacy of barons against King John.

6/19/1215 at Runnymede near Windsor, King John forced to agree to the terms of the Magna Carta.

11/20/1215 at Bury St. Edmunds, John elected as one of the 25 to guarantee observance of the Magna Carta. (S) History, Gazeteer and Dir. of Suffolk, 1874, P565.

1215-16, King John had the barons excommunicated, starting a war.

5/12/1216, Prince Louis [future VIII] of France, after a successful landing, crowned King of England in London. In June, Louis captured Winchester and controlled half of England.

7/1216, John fitz Robert, 1 of 13 baronial leaders selected to hold London until August 15th as the King’s custodians.

10/18/1216, King John died.

10/28/1216, Henry III, age 9, crowned king of England.

9/12/1217, For 10,000 marks and some land exchanges, Prince Louis forfeited his claim to the English crown by the treaty at Kingston-on-Thames. A principal provision of the treaty was amnesty for English rebels.

1217, John appointed Joint Governor [with John Marshall] of Norwich and Oxford castles.

5/15/1218, Order to Phillip of Oldcoates to place in respite the demand that he makes against John son of Robert for the tallage of Corbridge. (S) FRsHIII.

Joan died.

[–––John & Ada–––]

~1219, John married Ada.

1/22/1220, Northumberland. John son of Robert gives the king 2 m. for doing justice against John Vicecomes to render 12½ m. to him. (S) FRsHIII.

1221, Ada’s father died. (S) Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs.

1221, John fought with the king at the siege of Bitham, Lincolnshire.

2/13/1222, William Baard gives the king half a mark for having a precipe for summoning John son of Robert before the justices at Easter in one month to warrant him a moiety of the manor of Cartington. (S) FRsHIII.

1223, Henry, son of Andrew le Corp, acted as an attorney for John fitz Robert in Northumberland. (S) Regionalism and Revision, Fleming, 1998, P35.

6/1224, John fitz Robert with King Henry as he began a siege of the castle of Bedford [lasting 3 months]. (S) The Minority of Henry III, Carpenter, 1990, P365.

9/1224, Philip de Ardern, clerk, attached to answer John fitz-Robert, wherefore he draws him into a plea in court christian concerning the lay-fee of the said John … Philip comes and says, that he ought not to answer the said John … because he is excommunicated. (S) Collection of Reports, V1, Eagle, 1826, P2.

1224-27, John, sheriff of Northumberland.

1225-6, John an itinerant justice of Yorkshire. (S) Judges of England, V2, Foss, 1848, P194.

4/24/1227, William son of Roscelin and Lecia, his wife, give half a mark for having a pone against John son of Robert, concerning the service of two knights’ fees. Order to the sheriff of Norfolk. (S) FRsHIII.

1/11/1229, John fitz Robert with Roger de Bertram and Brian fitz Alan to go to Berwick to attend Alexander, king of Scotland, to York to meet with King Henry. (S) History of Northumberland, Hodgson, 1827, P18.

1230, John’s mother died.

1230, John fitz Robert leased a manor in London to Roger le Duc for 5 years. (S) Medieval London, Williams, 2013, P57.

1231, John Fitz-Robert took a personal oath to observe the convention relative to Long-Newton between Bishop Poor and John de Baliol. (S) County Palatine of Durham, Mackenzie, 1834, P61.

9/12/1231, Northumberland. The king has granted to John son of Robert that, of the 80 m. which are exacted from him at the Exchequer …, he may render 40 m. at these terms, … (S) FRsHIII.

1232, John in a lawsuit with Simon de Divelston over a fishery.

6/24/1233, The earls and barons, summoned by King Henry to council at Oxford, did not show. The nobles sent messages protesting the placement of Poitevins in high positions.

6/22/1234, John son of Robert gives the king 20s. for having before the justices next itinerant in Oxfordshire the record of a plea … between Margaret de Bascreville, claimant, and him, defendant, concerning one hide of land with appurtenances in Shorthampton. (S) FRsHIII.

3/24/1235, To the sheriff of Northumberland . …, debts at the Exchequer …, namely 60 m. from John son of Robert for trespass against the men of Rothbury, … (S) FRsHIII.

9/24/1236, Order to the sheriff of Northumberland to place in respite the demand that he makes from John son of Robert by summons of the Exchequer for several debts. (S) FRsHIII.

6/17/1237, Pledges for Bartholomew Peche: John son of Robert for 20 m. (S) FRsHIII.

9/28/1237 at York, Grant that John son of Robert and Thomas de Muleton, … shall come to Carlisle … in conjunction with the valuers who will be sent there on behalf of A. King of Scots 200£ worth of land to be assigned to A. King of Scots in the counties of Northumberland and Cumberland. (S) CPRs.

3/16/1238, Mandate to Thomas de Muleton, John son of Robert, … to meet … at Newcastle on Tyne and cause the king’s demesnes in the counties of Cumberland and Northumberland, where castles are not situated, to be extended to the amount of £200 a year. (S) CPRs.

Bef. 2/20/1241, John, of Warworth, Northumberland; Aynho, Northamptonshire; Clavering, Essex died.


3/3/1241, Buckinghamshire. The king has granted the manor of Iver with appurtenances to Ada, who was the wife of John son of Robert , until a certain dower has been assigned to her from the lands formerly of the same John. (S) FRsHIII.

Ada married 2nd John de Balliol.

3/6/1241, To the king’s escheators in Essex and Hertfordshire. Because the executors of the testament of John son of Robert have given the king surety by John de Balliol and Ada, who was the wife of the aforesaid John , that John and Ada will render a moiety of all debt that John … order to permit Ada and the aforesaid executors to have full administration of all goods and chattels formerly of the same John in their bailiwick. [Written in the same manner to the sheriffs of Northamptonshire, Northumberland and Buckinghamshire.] (S) FRsHIII.

5/7/1241, Ada, who was the wife of John son of Robert, has made fine with the king by 2000m. for having the custody of the land and heirs of the aforesaid John, namely of Roger and Hugh, together with their marriage, … (S) CPRs. [Ada arranged for Roger to be put in the care of William de Valence, the king’s brother.]

Bef. 6/22/1249, Ada’s son and heir Roger died in Normandy; her grandsons minors.

1250, Ada settled the manor of Stokesly, Yorkshire on her son Hugh and grandson Robert.

7/29/1251, Ada died; buried in Stokesbury, Durham.

(S) Magna Carta Ancestry, P209. (S) Blythburgh Priory Cartulary, Suffolk Records Society, 1981, P7.

Family notes:

1/6/1252, Ada de Bayllol’s dower lands extended at £111 6d. (S) CPRs.

Ceciley de Fontaine, d/o §§Lord Aleume of Fontaines. (S) House of Goldsborough, 1932, P155.

Children of John and Ada:

i. Roger Fitz John (243382596), born aft. 1219 in England.

ii. Hugh fitz John, born ~1222 in England.

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