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Baron William de Saint John & Lady Olive of Brittany

 121683720. Baron William de Saint John & 121683721. Lady Olive of Brittany

~1180, William de Sancto Johanne, born in England, s/o 243367440. Adam de Port & 243367441. Mabel d’Orval.

~1190, Olive born in Brittany, France, d/o §§Stephen of Brittany.

5/27/1199, John crowned king of England.


Olive 1st married to Henry de Fougeres.

8/1/1202, King John rescued his mother trapped in Mirebeau castle in Anjou, France. She was beseiged by his cousin Arthur, who John’s brother Richard had designated as his heir. Arthur was also captured [but not brought to England, he was taken to Rouen.]

1202, Adam de Port and his son William brought the prisoners captured at Mirebeau to England.

[––William & Olive––]

~1208, William married Olive. [Likely in Brittany.]

Bef. 7/13/1213, William’s father died; William giving 500 marks for his father’s lands. (S) Honors and Knights’ Fees, Farrer, 1925, P57. [William described himself as ‘William de Saint-John’, son and heir of Adam de Port, taking a maternal family name.]

1213, William de St. John a surety for Henry Hose of a debt of 100 marks.

2/9/1214, King John sailed for Poitou, unsuccessfully invading France to recover lost lands.

7/27/1214, William, earl of Salisbury, leader of the English forces supporting Otto IV of Germany against France, at the Battle of Bouvines, near Tournai in Flanders. The French King’s forces of 10,000 defeated an alliance of England, the Holy Roman Empire and rebellious French principalities, numbering 15,000 in 3 hours. The French captured 130 knights and Ferdinand of Flanders.

1214, William assessed £114 scutage. (S) Studies in Taxation, Mitchell, 1914, P115. [This scutage cancelled in 1222 because it was shown that he had performed his military service.]

4/15/1215, The King to the Convent of Saint Mary of Southwick, … We send to you … and our faithful William de St. John, to whom we have committed the authority … (S) Patent Rolls in the Tower of London, 1835, P29.

5/1215, William de St-John, Peter de Maulay, and Robert of Burgate dispactched to Otto of Brunswick. (S) Household Knights of King John, Church, 1999, P71.

1215, Messengers Thomas de Erdington and Henry de Ver dispatched by the King to William de St. John, constable of Southampton castle. (S) History of Southampton, Davies, 1883, P78.

6/19/1215 at Runnymede near Windsor, King John forced to agree to the terms of the Magna Carta.

5/1/1216, The sheriff of Hants ordered to transfer property to William de St. John. (S) General History of Hampshire, Woodward, 1861, P239.

5/20/1216, Prince Louis of France crossed to England in 10 warships, with 1200 knight and 900 troops. Louis quickly captured all the Cinque Ports except Dover. Louis captured the town of Lincoln, but not the castle.

6/2/1216, Louis proclaimed King in London. (S) A Primary History of Britain, Smith, 1873, P66.

10/18/1216, King John died.

10/28/1216, Henry III, age 9, crowned king of England.

1217, The lands of William de St. John, in arms against the king, granted to John, sheriff of Hants. (S) General History of Hampshire, Woodward, 1861, P189. [William apparently supported Louis as King of England over Henry.]

5/20/1217, English forces, with the aid of previous rebel barons, defeated the French forces at Lincoln, killing the Count of Perche in the battle. [William likely a royalist in this battle since he afterwards has his lands.]

6/1217-9/1223, William de St. John made a grant of the chaples of Appleshaw and Cholderton to Chichester for lights in the cathedral. (S) English Episcopal, Smith, 1994, P7.

9/12/1217, For 10,000 marks and some land exchanges, Prince Louis forfeited his claim to the English crown by the treaty at Kingston-on-Thames.

3/6/1218, William de St. John named in a writ of the Earl Marshall to the sheriff of Hampshire. (S) Transactions of the Royal Historical Society, 1907, P216.

1219, William’s mother died.

2/20/1219, Roger de Crest gives the king 2m. for the verdict of an assize of mort d’ancestor summoned before the itinerant justices in Surrey between the same Roger, claimant, and William de St. John, defendant, concerning half a knight’s fee with appurtenances in Merrow.

11/3/1221, William de St. John owes the king 100m., which were delivered to him as a prest.

1222, William aquitted of his scutage assessed in 1214 because it was shown that he had performed his duty. (S) Studies in Taxation, Mitchell, 1914, P115.

1/22/1223, Order to the sheriff of Hampshire to place in respite, …, the demand of £40 that he makes from William de St. John …, because William has mainperned … ready to satisfy the king.

1223, William de St. John served with Peter des Roches against Llywelyn in Wales. (S) Peter des Roches, Vincent, 2002, P211.

6/4/1224, Order to the sheriff of Sussex to place in respite the demand he makes from William de St. John for the debts that he owes.

1/1225, King Henry reissued the Magna Carta, which became the official text. (S) Hist. Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, Thomson, 1829, P130. [Witnesses: … Hubert de Burgh, the King’s Justiciary; Randolph Earl of Chester and Lincoln, William Earl of Salisbury, William Earl of Warren, Gilbert de Clare Earl of Gloucester and Hertford (19989528), William de Ferrers Earl of Derby, William de Mandeville Earl of Essex, Hugh le Bigod Earl of Norfolk (19909646), William Earl of Ablemarle, Humphrey de Bohun Earl of Hereford (47279584), John de Lacy Constable of Chester (19989530), Robert de Ros, Robert fitz Walter, Robert de Vipont, William de Brewer, Richard de Montifichet, Peter Fitz Herbert, Matthew Fitz Herbert, William de Albiniac, Robert Gresley, Reginald de Bruce, John de Monmouth (23634242), John Fitz Alan (94559104), Hugh de Mortimer, Walter de Beauchamp (60848480), William de Saint John, Peter de Mauley, Brian de Lisle, Thomas de Muleton, Richard de Argentine, Walter de Neville, William Mauduit, John de Baalun.]

7/6/1226, William de St. John has made fine with the king by 500 m. for having the king’s thickets of Chichester with their appurtenances in order to assart and cultivate them.

1227, The keepers of the King’s galleys at Portsmouth ordered to deliver the galley “Percevet” with all her stores to Herbert de Borun for William de St. John in Guernsey. (S) History of the Royal Navy, Nicolas, 1847, P221.

8/1227, William de St John, overlord of William de Pont-de-l’Arches, a surety for that William’s debt of £11. (S) Peter des Roches, Vincent, 2002, P145.

4/24/1228,  Order to William de St. John that, … abbot of St. Michael’s Mount , …, he is to permit the newly substituted abbot to have his corn and his other chattels found in his lands, which he holds from the king in the isles, …

6/15/1228, Order to the sheriff of Sussex to cause William de St. John to have respite … from the debts that are exacted from him.

10/1/1229, At the petition of the king’s beloved and faithful William de St. John and William of Eynsford, the king has granted them that, upon that which is in arrears of the 600m. which S., of good memory archbishop of Canterbury, owed the king, and for which, at the petition of William of Eynsford, the king betook himself to the same for the aforesaid archbishop, he will betake himself to William de St. John for William of Eynsford, so that William de St. John will answer the king for the remainder of the aforesaid debt of 600m. at the Exchequer by the plevin of the king’s beloved and faithful H. de Burgh, earl of Kent, justiciar , at the terms assigned to William of Eynsford.

2/5/1230, The king has granted to William de St. John that, of the £761 2s 1½d. which are exacted from him …, he may render 50m. each year …, until the aforesaid debt is paid to the king.

1230, William held half of the manor of Hunston, Sussex.

1231, Composition made by Walter, abbot of Hyde … villenage fo the croft which lies between the house of William Chasteyne and the park of Sir William de St. John near the water, … (S) Calendar of Charters – Selborne, Pt2, 1894, P14.

10/26/1232, Notification to the barons of the Exchequer that the king has given respite to William de St. John, until the octaves of Hilary in the 17th year, from the 25m. which he ought to have rendered.

2/7/1233, The king has given respite to William de St. John from the 25m. that he ought to have rendered at the Exchequer.

11/27/1233, Order to the sheriff of Hampshire to place in respite the demand he makes from William de St. John … for the debt he owes the king, …, and to cause his livestock taken for this reason to be delivered to him in the meantime.

1234, William de St. John received a pardon. (S) Honors and Knights’ Fees, Farrer, 1925.

4/9/1235, William de St. John pledged 100m. for Matthew, son and heir of Henry Hoese to have seisin of the lands.

8/17/1235, The king has granted to William de St. John that, of the debts he owes him, …, he may henceforth render 25m. each year …, notwithstanding that he did not keep his terms for the aforesaid 50 m. annually.

7/1237, William de St John appointed Aymer de Chaunceus and Stephen de Warneford as his attorneys, to act for him against the Crown in a plea of Quo Warranto. (S) An English Family, Warneford, 1991, P23.

6/2/1239, William de St. John owes 50m. for trespass of the forest.

1239, William died.


Child of William and Olive:

i. Robert de Saint John (60841860), born ~1210 in England.

12/1239,  Robert, son and heir of William de St. John, owes £100 10s. 6d. for his relief of lands that [William, his father, held ...] Order to the sheriff of Hampshire. (S) FRsHIII.

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