Lord Payn Fitz John & Sybilla de Lacy

 189121650. Lord Payn Fitz John & 189121651. Sybilla de Lacy

~1080, Pain born in England. [By timeline, younger s/o John de Burgo of Tonsburgh, Normandy, a commanding general of the Norman army of William the Conqueror.]

~1100, Sybilla born in England.

8/2/1100, Henry I crowned King of England.

1102, The lands of Roger de Montgomery given to Payne.

1104, Payne encouraged Philip de Braose to attack Builth.

1107, Richard de Belmeis promoted to the see of London, Pagan Fitz John succeeded as sheriff of Shropshire. (S) History of Shrewsbury, Owen, 1825, P76.

1114-20, Notification … grant to the canons of St. Oswald of a fair at Nostell. … attested … Pain Fitz-John.

1115, Ewias Lacy, lands of Hugh de Lacy, who died without issue, bestowed on Payn Fitz John by Henry I. [vs. Payn married a d/o Hugh de lacy of Ewyas Lacy. (S) Age of Conquest: Wales, Davies, 2000, P41.]

1115, Payn a witness to a royal charter to Geoffrey de Clive, bishop of Hereford.

[––Payn & Sybilla––]

~1118, Payn married Sybilla.

10/16/1119, ‘Calixtus, Bishop [Pope Calixtus II], a servant of the servants of God, to his beloved sons, … ‘Pagano filio Johannis’, Bernard de Newmarch, … diocese of Llandaff, … plundered of its property … (S) Liber Landavensis, 1840, P562.

1120-23 at Windsor, Royal notification of the gift of the daughter of Geoffrey Ridel to Richard Basset to wife … at the prayer of Ranulf, earl of Chester … Pain Fitz-John …

5/1121, Pain fitz John witnessed the King’s grant of marriage to Milo of Gloucester of Sybill de Newmarch. (S) Women of the English Nobility, Ward, 1995, P27.

1121-22 at Clarendon, Royal confirmation, for the souls of the king’s late wife and son, to the canons of St. Oswald’s … attested by Nigel de Aubigny and Pain Fitz-John.

1126, Payn fitz John attested the agreement between Bishop Urban and Robert of Gloucester to end spoliation of church lands by Anglo-Norman laymen. (S) Book of Llandaf, Davies, 2003, P52.

9/1126, Payn given custody of the King’s prisoner Waleran of Meulan.

1126-27, Royal confirmation to the monks of St. Mary’s, Malvern, attested by Pain Fitz-John.

1127, Payn fitz John replaced Richard de Belmeis as curial justicia [viceroy] to oversee the protection of the central marches. (S) Anglo-Norman Studies, Lewis, 2007, P201.

1127, Confirmation to the monks of St. Mary’s, Malvern … attested by … Miles of Gloucester, … Pain fitz John, … Walter de Beauchamp, at Hereford.

1127-33, Miles of Gloucester and Pain fitz John witnessed gifts of Baldwin de Rivers to the canons of Breamore.

1127-28, Pain fitz John in the entourage of King Henry I in Normandy. (S) Henry I and the Anglo-Norman World, Fleming, 2007, P165. [King Henry invaded France to draw the forces of the French king away from conflicts in Flanders between William Clito and Thierry of Alsace.]

1128, Pain fitz John the new Viceroy of Bridgnorth castle, where he had custody of prisoner Meredyth ap Lhywarch. (S) Antiquities of Shropshire, V1, Eyton, 1854, P247.

1128, Payn fitz John named with others in a papal letter as despoilers of the lands of Urban, bishop of Llandaf. (S) Book of Llandaf, Davies, 2003, P52.

1129, Miles of Gloucester and Payn fitz John requested the king appoint a successor to Richard, bishop of Hereford.

1130, Pain Fitz-John a justice itinerant in Gloucester, Stafford, and Northampton in conjunction with Milo of Gloucester.

1130, Pain Fitz-John exempted from the Danegeld [of 40s] on his lands in Oxfordshire, Gloucestershire and Norfolk.

1131 at Waltham, Grant of the King for the use of the canons of the church of the martyrs Gervase and Protase of Sees … attested … Waleran count of Meulan, Hugh Bigot and Humphrey de Bohun sewers, Miles of Gloucester, … Payn fitz John, … Henry de Ferrers, … Geoffrey fitz Pain, ….

6/29/1131-10/1/1133, Pain Fitz-John witnessed a royal charter to St. Peter priory at Dunstable. (S) Record of the House of Gournay, Gurney, 1845, P232.

8/1131, Notification by Henry I … restored and granted to William, son of Walter de Beauchamp, his dispenser, the land that his father held from whatever lord; and his father's office of dispenser. … Witesses: … G[eoffrey] the chancellor; … Robert Earl of Leicester; Robert de Vere; Miles of Gloucester; Robert] deCurci; Hugh] Bigod; Humphrey de Bohun; Payn fitz John; Eustace fitz John [brother of Payn]; Geoffrey fitz Payn; William Maltravers; William de Albini, Smo ; … William Mauduit. [Payn and Eustace attest 84 charter over a period of 21 years. (S) Monarchy, Magnates, and Institutions; Hollister, 1986, P70.]

1132, Grant to the hospital of Falaise … attested by … William earl of Warren; the sewers Hugh Bigot, Humphrey de Bohun, and Robert de Curci; Geoffrey fitz-Pain, Miles of Gloucester, Pain fitz-John, … and Aubrey de Ver, at Marden.

12/1132 at Windsor, Payn Fitz John attended the Christmas court of King Henry.

5/28-7/31/1133 at Winchester, Royal grant to the archbishop of Rouen … attested by Pain Fitz-John.

1134, Payne [or Pagan] held Caus castle, Shropshire. [It was destroyed by the Welsh while in his custody.]

Bef. 1135, Payne issued a writ addressed a writ to “the reeve of Hereford, whoever he may be, and to all the burghers of Hereford, French and English”.

1135, Pain fitz John sheriff of Shropshire and Hereford, and lord of Cwmwd of Ewyas, Wales.

12/22/1135, Stephen crowned king of England [usurping Empress Matilda, d/o King Henry I, and starting a long civil war.]

4/1136 at Westminister after King Stephen’s coronation, Payne signed King Stephen’s charter of Winchester.

1/5/1136, Payn fitz John attended the burial of King Henry I at Reading abbey with King Stephen.

1136 at Reading, King Stephen granted Pain, on doing his homage, all the lands he had held.

4/1136 at Oxford, Payn witnessed a royal charter.

6-8/1136, Payn at the siege of Exeter.

7/10/1137 in Wales near Cardigan, Payne, Lord of Ewyas, died; his head pierced by an arrow in battle against the Welsh; buried at Chapter House, Gloucester Abbey. [3000 English were killed in the battle.]

[––Sybilla––]

Bef. 1139, Sibilla de Lacy notified her bailiffs and foresters that she had donated land of Leghe near the church of St Michae” to ‘my uncle Walter abbot of Gloucester’, for the souls of ‘myself and my husband Payne Fitz-john’. (S) FMG.

1139, Sybil holding Ludlow castle in dower; forced to surrender it to King Stephen.

Sybilla died.

(S) A History of Wales from the Earliest Times, V2, Lloyd, 1912. (S) The Age of Owain Gwynedd, Barbier, 1908. (S) English Historical Review, V34, 1919. (S) King Stephen, King, 2010. (S) Judges of England, Foss, V1, 1848, P117.

Family notes:

Well known story: Payn was the chamberlain to King Henry I, providing a bottle of wine with a small meal before the king went to bed at night. The king never drank the wine, so Payn and the other servants consumed it after the king went to bed. One night the king awoke and called for the wine. Payn admitted that each night they had consumed the wine, and that there was none to be found. King Henry then authorized a gallon each night, a bottle for himself, and the rest for Payn and the servants. (S) History of Shrewsbury, Owen, 1825, P76.

Children of Payn and Sybil ?:

i. Agnes Fitz John (94560825), born ~1120 in England.

ii. Cicely Fitz John, born ? in England.

Cicely married Roger Fitz Walter, s/o Earl Milo Fitz Walter & Sybill de Newmarch.

1155, Roger died.

1198, William de Munchensi and his materanl aunt Countess Cicely tendered a fine to have their right in Ludelawe, Wibelay and Ewias. (S) Antiquities of Shropshire, V5, Eyton, 1857, P243.

1207, Cecily, countess of Hereford, died childless. Her heir was William de Munchensi, grandson of her sister Agnes [a coheir of Pain fitz John] who had married Hubert de Munchensi. (S) Collections for a History of Staffordshire, V1, 1880, P236.