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Sunday, August 30, 2020

Lord Robert de Quincy & Orabilis de Mar

 79958024. Lord Robert de Quincy & 79958025. Orabilis de Mar

12/22/1135, Stephen crowned king of England.

~1138, Robert born in England, s/o 159116048. Saire de Quincy & 159116049. Maud de Saint Liz.

~1140, Orabilis born in Scotland, heiress & d/o §§Lord Ralph (Nes) fitz William of Leuchars in Fife.

5/24/1153, Malcolm IV succeeded King David I of Scotland.

12/19/1154, Henry II crowned king of England.

~1156, Robert inherited no English lands on the death of his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland. [Robert’s older brother Saher inherited the English lands.]

[––Robert & Orabilis––]

~1158, Robert married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife, Strathearn and Lothian. (S) Charters of the Abbey of Coupar-Angus, Easson, 1947, P41.

1160, Robert is recorded as a close companion of his cousin, [future King] William the Lion.

1163, Robert appears in Scottish records.

Bef. 1165, King Malcolm granted the manor of Travernent in Haddingtonshire to Robert de Quency. (S) Proceedings, Antiquaries of Scotland, V32, 1898, P277.

12/24/1165, After the death of his brother Malcolm, William “the Lion”, age 22, crowned King of Scotland. [Robert witnessed many charters of King William.]

9/12/1166-1170, Rodbertus de Quinci made a grant to the church of Holy Rood of Edinburgh, confirmed by King William. (S) POMS.

1165-70 at Berwick, Charter of King William to Gregory of Maleuin … witnesses, David, the king’s brother, … Philip de Valoniis, chamberlain, Gilbert fitz Richard, Robert de Quinci, … (S) The Melvilles, Fraser, 1890, P-V.

1165-85, Charter by King William to the monks of Scone granting them right of ordeal by combat, fire and water; witnessed by … Robert de Quinci. (S) House of Commons Papers, V31, 1867, P100.

11/11/1170-3/24/1171, Land of Robert de Quincy in Peston. (S) POMS.

1171-84 at Aberdon, King William made a grant in favour of Simon de Toeny, bishop of Murray; witnessed by Robert de Quinci and Philip de Valoniis. (S) Historical Catalogue of the Scottish Bishops, 1824, P136. [Dates based on Simon de Toeny as bishop.]

1171-80, Robert de Quinci, as justiciary, witnessed multiple charters of King William. (S) Historical and Topographical Account of North Britian, Chalmers, 1887, P704.

1175, Robert a justiciar in Fife, Scotland.

1187, Robert de Quinci granted lands of Prestongrange to Newbattle abbey in Scotland. (S) Sketches of Early Scotch History, Innes, 1861, P131.

1/7/1188, Confirmation by Pope Clement III of a grant ‘ex dono Roberti de Quinci et Seer filii ejus’ to the abbot and the convent of Newbottle, of the Grange of Prestoun. (S) Notes & Queries, Oxford Journals, 1874, P170.

11/3/1189, Richard I crowned king of England.

1190, Robert in the army of King Richard departed on the 3rd Crusade. Richard commandeered ships and ordered them to Dover to move some of his forces to France. The fleet was then to move to Marsailles to meet up with the combined English and French troops.

7/1190, the English and French armies met at Lyons; where they learned that the German Emperor, leading his forces to the crusade, had died in an accident.

1191, King Richard captured the city of Messina, Sicily, after they had refused to let the English ships land.

1191, 24 ships sank in a storm on the way to Cyprus.

6/5/1191, Richard set sail for Acre. [The French forces were already besieging the city.]

7/1191, Richard captured Acre. Afterwards, Many of the forces, especially the Germans, returned home.

8/6/1191, The Duke of Burgundy, Drogo de Amiens and Robert de Quenci were sent on a mission to Tyre to solicit support of the French Marqui. (S) Crusade of Richard I, Archer, 1888, P124.

9/5/1191, Richard defeated Saladin at the battle of Arsuf.

12/1191, Richard arrived at Beit Nuba, 12 miles from Jerusalem.

1192, Richard moved to Ascalon, on the coast south of Acre, and spent 4 months rebuilding its fortifications.

8/1/1192, Richard conducted a sea assault on Jaffa.

9/2/1192, Richard made a 3-year truce with Saladin.

1192, Robert de Quenci, ‘who had gone to Jerusalem’, allowed 20s in respect to the scutage of Wales of his holding in the Chokes fee. (S) Honors and Knights’ Fees, Ferrar, 1923, P32.

12/21/1192, King Richard was captured near Vienna while returning from crusade.

1193, Robert [and most English soldiers] returned to England.

9/1/1193-96, Roberto de Quinci a witness to charter from King William of Scotland to William Giffard. (S) Notes & Queries, Oxford Journals, 1874, P170.

3/12/1194, King Richard, having once more evaded capture on his way home, landed at Sandwich, England.

1196, Robert died in England. (S) The Reign of King John, Painter, 1949, P32.


Orablis 2nd married Duncan, 8th Earl of Mar. (S) Chartulary of the Abbey of Lindores, 1195-1479, Abbey, 1903, P232.

Bef. 6/30/1203, Orabilis died.

(S) Publications of the Scottish History Society, V42, 1903, P232.

Family notes:

·         Ralph (Nes) de Mar, s/o Lord William Leuchars. “Nes” granted the church of Leuchars to St. Andrews; Orablis is called his daughter and heiress.

Child of Robert and Orabilis:

i. Saire de Quincy (39979012), born ~1160 in England.

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