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Marcher Lord Roger de Clifford & Matilda ? & Lord Hugh de Gournay

 4997408. Marcher Lord Roger de Clifford & 4997409. Matilda ? & 243382146. Lord Hugh de Gournay

~1200, Hugh born in France, d/o 20001946. Hugh de Gournay & 20001947. Juliane of Dammartin.

1203, Hugh with his family fled to Cambrai during the conflict in Normandy between the kings of England and France.

12/28/1205, By deed of King John, Hugh and his family were allowed to return to England.

1214, Hugh the Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire.

10/25/1214, Hugh’s father died.

8/23/1215, Hugh de Gournay’s [the father] lands of Wendover given to custody of William de Cantelowe.

1216, Hugh’s older brother Gerard died, the family manor of Wendover granted to William de Fiennes.

4/20/1216, at Reygate, King John gave all the fiefs in Norfolk and Suffolk to “Hugo de Gurnay filius Hugonis de Gurnay”. Hugh paid 50 marks for possession of the family lands.

9/17/1216, Hugh, having joined the barons against King John, had his lands confiscated and placed in the custody of John Mareschal.

10/19/1216, Henry III succeeded John as King of England. Louis of France also claimed the throne.

~1217, Matilda born in England.

5/23/1217, All Hugh’s lands given to custody of William de Cantelowe.

12/20/1218, Hugh’s lands in Norfolk, Lincolnshire, and Buckinghamshire delivered to William de Catelupe.

1219, Hugh de Gournay under age, and in the custody of William de Cantelupe [married to his sister].

~1220, Roger born in England, s/o 9994816. Roger de Clifford & 9994817. Sibyl de Ewyas.

[––Hugh & Lucy––]

1220, Hugh 1st married Lucy ?, widow of Robert de Berkeley, s/o Maurice Fitz Robert & Alice de Berkeley. [No children.]

5/2/1222, Hugh had livery of his lands; except the soke of Waltham in Lincolnshire.

1224, Hugh, against orders of the king, attended a tournament at Blyth, Nottinghamshire; and again had his lands seized. [Tournaments were outlawed by the church.]

1228, King Henry and his court arrived on the border with Wales at Montgomery castle to negotiate.

9/3/1228, Marcher barons were called into service when the negotiations were not going well. The next day King Henry sent a summons to more than 100 others that went into battle against the Welsh [the 1st documented general call to military service of the king.] Hugh fought against the Welsh.

By 1229, Hugh, lord of Gournay, granted lands in Caistor and Cantley to Sir Roger Botetourt.        

1/18/1234, Hugh’s wife Lucy died.

5/29/1234, Protection for Hugh de Gurnay for such time as he is on the king’s service in Brittany. (S) CPRs.

3/19/1235, Hugh granted a market and fair to be held at Cantley, Norfolk. (S) Gaz. of Markets and Fairs in England and Wales to 1516.

[ ––– Hugh & Matilda ––– ]                   

By 1236, Hugh de Gournay married Matilda.

1238, Hugh, Lord of Mapledurham-Gurnay, died; buried at Langely abbey.


7/23/1238, Grant to William de Cantilupo the younger, … for a fine of 500 marks, of the custody of the lands, &c. of Juliana, the daughter and heir of Hugh de Gurnay, with the marriage of the said Juliana, together with the custody and marriage of the child when born, whereof Maud late the wife of the said Hugh says she is pregnant … (S) CPRs. [William’s wife Millicent was sister of Hugh.]                                                       

8/27/1239, Matilda challenged the custody of William de Cantilupe.

1231, Roger de Clifford a minor when his father died.

12/16/1231, Walter of Clifford has made fine with the king by £100 for having the custody of the land and heirs of Roger of Clifford, his brother, until the legal age of the same heirs, with their marriage.

By 7/1236, Roger’s mother died.

[ ––– Roger & Matilda ––– ]

By 1241, Richard, knt. of Tenbury, Worcestershire, married widow Matilda.

2/12/1242, Walter of Clifford … fine … £100 for having the manor of Slaughter , formerly of Roger of Clifford, until the legal age of Roger’s heir , … the king had taken the aforesaid manor into his hand …

4/1/1242, The king has granted to Roger of Clifford that, of the £71 which he owes him for the debts of Roger of Clifford, his father.

11/6/1245, Mandate to William de Oddingeseles, Roger de Clifford, … to stay in the parts of Mungumery [Wales] with John Lestrange … in the defence of those parts … (S) CPRs.

11/27/1246, Grant to Roger de Clifford of £30 a year … (S) CPRs.

1249, Roger built the Teme bridge in Tenbury.

3/4/1250, Protection with clause for Walter de Escoteny and Roger de Clifford, knights of R. de Clare, earl of Gloucester, going with the earl on pilgrimage beyond seas [to Santiago, Spain]. (S) CPRs.

5/3/1254, Protection with clause volumus for the following who are going with the queen to the king in Gascony ; … Roger de Clifford … (S) CPRs. [Henry’s army in camp at Meilhan, France, near the Spanish border. 11/1/1254, Prince Edward would marry Leonore at Las Huelgas in Burgos, which the queen attended.]

9/24/1257, The king has granted to Roger de Clifford that, concerning all the debts which the same Roger owes to the king and which were previously attermined by the king’s order before the barons of the Exchequer …

4/27/1258, The king has granted to Roger of Clifford that he may pay 100 m. … of the £300 which he mainperned to pay … for John le Breton, formerly sheriff of Herefordshire …

8/1258, Marcher lords Roger de Clifford, Hamo Lestrange and John de Vaux were members of Lord Edward’s entourage [the “bachelors of England” including Henry of Almain, John de Warren and Roger de Leyburn], and distrusted and disliked by the Queen, when Edward made an agreement with Simon de Montfort pledging to the furtherance of reform. (S) Eleanor of Provence, Howell, 2001, P163.

2/11/1259, Commission to Peter de Monte Forti, Hugh le Despenser, Roger de Clifford, … touching contentions which have arisen between James de Audithele and Roger de Somery … (S) CPRs.

1259, Roger traveled to France in the retinue of King Henry III for the negotiation of a peace treaty.

10/26/1259 in France, “Edward, son of the king. … Witnesses: Lords Roger de Mont Alto, seneschal of Chester, …, Roger de Leyburn, …, Roger de Clifford, …, William la Zusche.” (S) UKNA.

12/1259, King Louis and Queen Margaret hosted a family Christmas gathering in Paris that included King Henry III and Queen Eleanor, Count Charles of Anjou and Countess Beatrice. Kings Henry and Louis would sign an official peace treaty whereby Henry, for money, would keep only Gascony in France as a fief, for which he would do homage.

5/13/1260 at Mortlake, Simon de Monte Forti, earl of Leicester, John, earl of Warren, Roger de Leyburn, Peter de Monte Forti, Roger de Clifford, and Hamo Lestraunge witnessed a charter of Edward, the king’s eldest son, to Robert de Tybetoto for his homage and service. (S) CChRs, 1906, P147.

10/27/1260, Protection with clause for Roger de Clifford, gone beyond seas by order of the king with Edward the king’s son … (S) CPRs. [For about 2 years Lord Edward took a group of knights touring tournaments in Europe, including Roger’s son Roger.]

1261, “Order in a cause before commissaries of a judge delegate between Roger de Clifford, knight, and others, executors of William de Tregoz, and Alan de Ardene.” (S) UKNA.

11/23/1261, Grant to Roger de Clifford of 50 marks a year … (S) CPRs.

1261-2, “Abstracts from two forest eyre rolls: rot 1 pleas of venison in Feckenham and Pepperwood forests in the eyre of Roger de Clifford.” (S) UKNA.

10/5/1262, Whereas lately, at the instance of Edward, his son, the king had granted to his beloved and faithful Roger of Clifford … for the 300 m. which John le Bretun owed … whereas Roger did not keep those terms … the king, wishing to do him grace in this matter, has granted him that he may nevertheless recover the same terms …

1263, Roger’s son Roger joined the barons in revolt under Simon de Montfort [mostly young barons].

8/17/1263, The king [actually the council], … committed his castle and manor of Marlborough, …, the hundred of Selkley … and the castle and manor of Ludgershall, …, to Roger of Clifford

1263, Roger heir to his uncle Walter de Clifford.

2/1264, Roger de Clifford delivered Gloucester castle to Prince Edward. (S) History of Ludlow, Wright, 1852, P173.

5/12/1264, Roger at the battle of Lewes, Sussex, on the side of King Henry III where he was captured; but released when he promised to appear in parliament. [King Henry and Prince Edward were also captured.] An estimated 2700 died. Prince Edward and his knights penetrated the center of Montfort’s army, but was flanked on both sides by armored calvary.

1264-65, Simon de Montfort effectively ruled England.

7/7/1264, Safe conduct … for … Roger de Mortuo Mari, … Roger de Leiburn, Roger de Clifford, Warin de Bassinburn, …, and other knights … together with their household, horses and good which they bring with them. (S) CPRs.

11/1264, Marcher Lords Roger de Mortimer and Roger de Clifford rebelled against Simon de Montfort.

12/1264, Simon de Mortimer ordered Marcher lords Roger de Clifford and Roger de Leybourne to leave the country for Ireland.

6/1265, Roger de Mortimer conceived the plan and furnished a horse that allowed Edward I to escape from Hereford Castle. The Prince came to Wigmore Castle. Roger de Mortimer and Roger de Clifford fought off Edward’s pursuers as the prince approached.

7/31/1265, Roger commanded the forces under Prince Edward at the Battle of Kenilworth, Warwickshire. [In the records of Parliament in 1294: “These are the words which lord William de Vescy said to lord John FitzThomas concerning our lord the king of England. … before he reached Kenilworth, he sent people to find out what people were with lord Simon de Montfort. And when he had learned what people were there, he said that he would turn back, … And then lord Roger de Clifford said that if he turned back it would be a great shame and disgrace to him and to all his men forever, and it could lose England. … And then lord Roger said, 'Whatever happens, we will go', and he said 'Forward with the banners' and rode forward, and the king for shame could not refuse to go, and they acquitted themselves well …” (S) Parliament Rolls, 2005, Roll 9.]

8/4/1265, Roger fought for captured King Henry III at the battle of Evesham; the defeat of Simon de Montfort, ending the Baron’s Revolt. Montfort and 2 of his sons were killed.

9/12/1265, Simple protection for the men or Roger de Clyfford of the county of Westmoreland until Whitsunday. (S) CCRs. [Writ later extended to the men of Roger de Leyburn.]

1/1266, Remission, at the instance of Roger de Clifford and Roger de Leyburn, to Isabel and Iseult daughters and heirs of Robert de Veteri Ponte, who held in chief, of the trespasses of said Robert in adhering to Simon de Monte Forti … they shall not be molested as regards the lands of their father … (S) CPRs.

9/29/1267, Order to Roger de Clifford to deliver custody of the aforesaid county and castle to the same Adam in the form aforesaid.

2/6/1268, Commission to Robert de Nevile … disturbances … county of Warwick … [between] … Roger de Clifford … Roger de Somery … (S) CPRs.

3/6/1268, “Writ to the citizens of Hereford ordering them to admit Roger de Clifford to remain in the city for one month beginning at next Easter Day, to defend the city ‘ad modum obsidionis Troiae’.” (S) UKNA.

3/9/1268, Pardon to Roger de Clifford and those of his household and fellowship of all trespasses committed by them by occasion of the non-observance of the Provisions of Oxford, … (S) CPRs.

1268, The lands of Roger de Veteri Ponte were divided by convenant between Sirs Roger de Clifford and Roger de Leyburn, guardians of the lands, … to Roger de Clifford … castles of Appelby and Bruham … to Roger de Leyburn … castles of Brough and Marlestang … county Westmerland … (S) CPRs.

10/17/1269, Henry de Kirkeby gives 20s. for an assize to be taken before Roger de Clifford’ and John de Reyg’.

7/18/1270, Roger de Clifford named his son Roger as his attorney as he was leaving on crusade. (S) CPRs.

8/1/1270, Order to Roger de Clifford’ senior to deliver custody of the forest this side of the Trent to the same Roger his son.

8/1270, Roger left with Prince Edward on the 8th crusade.

11/10/1270, The crusaders arrived in Tunis to find that King Louis of France had died, the crusader forces had been decimated by disease, and King Charles of Sicliy had already arranged a peace treaty with the emir of Tunis.

By 1272, Matilda died [Many wives went on the crusade – she may have died their.]


1272, Roger a signer of the will of Prince Edward at Acre.

11/16/1272, King Henry III died.

Roger married the Countess [Matilda] of Laruetania [died 1301.]

6/24/1273 in Savoy, Roger witnessed a deed of William, lord of Tournon, to King Edward. (S) Edward I, Prestwich, 1988, P84.

Roger returned to England ahead of King Edward. [King Edward traveled to Paris to do homage for his lands in France to King Philip III.]

4/14/1274, Power to William de Bello Campo, earl of Warwick, Roger de Clifford, … to hear and do justice touching mutual trespasses and raids in the march of Wales against the form of the peace between llewellin son of Griffith, prince of Wales and Henry III … (S) CPRs.

1274, Roger sent to Wales with William de Beauchamp.

9/23/1274, Order to all foresters and other ministers of the king's forests to be intendant to Roger de Clifford the elder, to whom the king has committed during pleasure the office of justice of the said forests. Order to Roger de Clifford the younger to deliver the office to Roger the elder. (S) CFRs.

1/13/1275, [Delayed entry] Protection with clause volumus, until Midsummer, for Roger de Clifford, the elder. (S) CPRs.

1275, Roger sent by King Edward to France as an envoy.

11/7/1275, Order to Roger de Clifford to deliver to Richard de Holebrok the castle of Sabaud with the forest of Rotelaund. (S) CFRs.

7/25/1276, Protection with clause volumus, until Michaelmas, for Roger de Clifford, the elder. (S) CPRs. [Roger’s son of Roger is also listed.]

1/26/1277, Writ … the land of Evelismoneth in favor of Roger de Clifford, to whom the king has committed the custody of the said land … (S) CPRs.

1277, Roger fought in the wars in Wales.

6/1277, King Edward was in Chester where he cleared a road through a dense forest, and started construction on the castles of Flint and Rhuddlan. King Edward made forays into the Welsh lands of Llywelyn ap Gruffydd, prince of Wales, capturing Snowdonia and the isle of Anglesey.

1277, Ralph de Tony, age 22, had the march of Elvael restored by Roger de Clifford.

10/15/1277, Roger held Hawarden during the minority of Roger de Monthaut. (S) CPRs.

1279, Roger a Justice of Wales.

6/10/1280, Inspeximus of a charter of Roger de Clifford the elder to the mayor and citizens of London all the lands and houses of the late John son of Geoffrey. (S) CPRs.

5/23/1281, Mandate to Roger de Clifford to do his homage and service to Edmund, the king’s brother … town and honor of Monemuth, … (S) CPRs.

8/1/1281, Bond by Roger de Clyfford, knight, lord of Westmerland. (S) Ancient Deeds, V4, 1902, A.6332.

3/21/1282, Roger wounded and captured at Hawarden in Wales by Davydd ap Llywelyn. Roger was taken to Snowden. [Hawardarden castle was burnt.]

1282, “Commission to Gilbert de Clare to enquire with Humfrey de Bohun and Robert de Tybetot into the attacks on Hawarden and Flint castles and the abduction of Roger de Clifford by the Welsh.” (S) UKNA.

8/16/1282, The king has granted to Roger de Monte Alto, son and heir of Robert de Monte Alto, a minor, the lands of Mold and Hawardyn which are of his inheritence, on condition that he answer for the issues thereof to Roger de Clyfford, the elder, to whom the king granted the custody of the lands. (S) CCRs.

11/6/1282, Roger’s son Roger died.

12/11/1282, King Edward’s forces defeated Llewelyn ap Gruffydd at the Battle of Radnor in eastern Wales. King Edward received the head of Llywelyn at Rhuddlan castle. [Aka Battle of Orewin Bridge.]

12/11/1283, Pardon to Roger de Clifford and his heirs … of his debts to the king; … (S) CPRs.

1284, Roger de Clifford gave  £10 to Benedictine nuns of the Priory of Westwood. (S) Hist. of Worcester, V2, 1971, Priory of Westwood.

1286, Roger, Lord of Kingsbury, died.

4/3/1286, Order to the escheator on this side Trent to take into the king's hand the goods late of Roger de Clifford, deceased … he meddle not with the robes, jewels, beds or other things which pertain to pertain to the countess of Lerett, late the wife of Roger … (S) CFRs.

(S) A Genealogical History of the Dormant …, Burke, 1866, P122. (S) The Welsh Wars of Edward I, Morris, 1901. (S) A Genealogical and Heral. Dic., Burke, 1862, P616. (S) An Ess. Tow’s a Topo. Hist. of the Co. of Norfolk, Blomefield, 1810, P202. (S) Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, V18, 1905, P355. (S) The Rec. of the House of Gournay, Gurney, 1845. (S) FRsHIII.

Child of Hugh and Matilda:

i. Julian de Gurnay (121691073), born 1237 in England. [Heir]

Child of Roger and Matilda:

i. Roger de Clifford (2498704), born 1242 in England.

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